[ANSTHRLD] Conflict question - Septfoil?

[Scott Barrett]

Okay, didn't know that. Thanks, Emma.

~Finnacan

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[mailto:heralds-bounces at lists.ansteorra.org] On Behalf Of Jennifer Smith
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Subject: Re: [ANSTHRLD] Conflict question - Septfoil?

On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 12:13 PM, Scott Barrett <barrett1 at cox.net> wrote:
> On Fri, 17 Aug 2012, Bob Wade <logiosophia at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Versus "Argent, a septfoil gules." consider "Argent, a carnation 
>> gules, slipped and leaved vert, surmounted by a rosewood recorder 
>> proper." (Amelliana die Weisse aus Siena, Device, August of 1982)
>
> If the carnation is a.) slipped and leaved, and b) surmounted by 
> another charge, in this case a recorder, how is that not two DCs?
>
> Those two elements provide a distinct visual difference from "argent, 
> a septfoil gules".

We don't grant difference for slipping and leaving, in most cases, as that
is an artistic detail which has been deemed interchangable in period armory
(ie, it comes and goes).

-Emma
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