[ANSTHRLD] Conflict question - Septfoil?

[Bob Wade]

Out of curiosity, what is the proposed blazon?
 
Bordure, you did bookmark the cinquefoil/rose/hexfoil precedent, didn't you?  The comparable reference in SENA is http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/sena.html#A5G5  In contrast to the mullet reference Palimpest previously noted (Explicitly mentioned in the example http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/sena.html#A5G1e), there's now a DC for change of number between 6+ and anything 5 or less.

--- On Thu, 8/16/12, Etienne de St. Amaranth <st.amaranth at yahoo.com> wrote:


From: Etienne de St. Amaranth <st.amaranth at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [ANSTHRLD] Conflict question - Septfoil?
To: "Heralds List, Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <heralds at lists.ansteorra.org>
Date: Thursday, August 16, 2012, 5:24 PM


And...  I would include documentation on the design being used in stonework, etc. in period.  To document that it was a known motif or design in period even if no one chose to use it in armory that we have found.

Respectfully,

Etienne

On Aug 16, 2012, at 4:47 PM, "Scott Barrett" <barrett1 at cox.net> wrote:

> Okay, I'll let this fellow know the current enigma on septfoils and have him
> send it in for examination and debate.
> 
> Also, while the SCA has registered one recently (November 2010) I have only
> located the septfoil on the modern arms of the Scottish genealogical
> society, not a medieval source. Granted, this was just a quick googling
> online, but I suspect that if it was used before 1600 in heraldry, it was
> likely very rare.
> It does appear as a feature in decorative stone and woodwork within our
> timeframe, and I spotted a reference to the Church using it as a symbol for
> the Seven Cardinal Virtues.
> 
> ~Finnacan
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:heralds-bounces at lists.ansteorra.org] On Behalf Of Doug Bell
> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 4:18 PM
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> Subject: Re: [ANSTHRLD] Conflict question - Septfoil?
> 
> No one should think or guess. Septfoil conflicts haven't been ruled on. I
> checked SENA as well and no help there.
> 
> Even if a suspect conflict is found with the submission it would have to go
> up to the CoA for commentary and a Wreath ruling. Kingdom couldn't do much
> with it.
> 
> So go ahead and submit it. The sooner the better.
> 
> Magnus
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