[ANSTHRLD] Conflict question - Septfoil?

[Jennifer Smith]

On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 12:13 PM, Scott Barrett <barrett1 at cox.net> wrote:
> On Fri, 17 Aug 2012, Bob Wade <logiosophia at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Versus "Argent, a septfoil gules." consider "Argent, a carnation
>> gules, slipped and leaved vert, surmounted by a rosewood recorder
>> proper." (Amelliana die Weisse aus Siena, Device, August of 1982)
>
> If the carnation is a.) slipped and leaved, and b) surmounted by another
> charge, in this case a recorder, how is that not two DCs?
>
> Those two elements provide a distinct visual difference from "argent, a
> septfoil gules".

We don't grant difference for slipping and leaving, in most cases, as
that is an artistic detail which has been deemed interchangable in
period armory (ie, it comes and goes).

-Emma