[ANSTHRLD] Submission Check please..

Crandall crandalltwo-scalists at yahoo.com
Wed Feb 29 17:40:37 PST 2012

The use of flora and fauna native to the New World, Africa, Asia, and other non-European locales will be registerable if it is reasonable to believe that Europeans knew them in period. Their use will be considered a step from period practice, unless they were used as charges in period heraldry, including crests and badges, in which case their use is not a weirdness.
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The Society for Creative Anachronism studies pre-Seventeenth Century Western Culture. The period of the Society has been defined to extend until 1600 A. D. Its domain includes Europe and areas that had contact with Europe during this period. 
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"In all life one should comfort the afflicted, but verily, also, one should afflict the comfortable, and especially when they are comfortably, contentedly, even happily wrong." -John Kenneth Galbraith

--- On Wed, 2/29/12, Scott Carledge <scat at cfl.rr.com> wrote:

> From: Scott Carledge <scat at cfl.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: [ANSTHRLD] Submission Check please..
> To: "'Heralds List, Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc.'" <heralds at lists.ansteorra.org>
> Date: Wednesday, February 29, 2012, 7:26 PM
> I believe that late medieval Japan IS
> covered by the SCA.  What do you have
> saying otherwise?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: heralds-bounces at lists.ansteorra.org
> [mailto:heralds-bounces at lists.ansteorra.org]
> On Behalf Of Tim McDaniel
> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 8:14 PM
> To: Heralds List, Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc.
> Subject: Re: [ANSTHRLD] Submission Check please..
> On Mon, 27 Feb 2012, Ld. Albin Oil De Larrun <albin_oil_de_larrun at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> > If we changed it to a European crane, could it be
> "artistically"
> > redrawn as one of the others on his shield?
> I'll be pedantic about terminology.
> "Could": lacking heraldry police, it could be "artistically"
> redrawn as
> Darth Vader's helm affronty, and the bend redrawn as two
> bars nebuly, and
> the field could add semy of Volkswagen Beetles ancient.
> "Should" is a different question.  I am a proponent of
> "register what you
> drew and draw what you registered", if for no other reason
> than why the
> dickens should you bother paying money and taking everyone's
> time with a
> design that you're not going to use?  The reason for
> the precedent is that
> no evidence has yet been presented showing it in Western
> European heraldry,
> and Laurel asserted that it is not identifiable in those
> terms.  Japan is
> not within the domain of the SCA.
> Danihel Lindicolinum
> --
> Tim McDaniel, tmcd at panix.com
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