[ANSTHRLD] Second Draft of Achievements Proposal Online

Pat Mullins paedrics at yahoo.com
Tue Jun 19 09:03:50 PDT 2012


The only thing I noticed was in "Suggested Changes" where it said:
• Branches
o Baronies follow the same laws as Nobility. All other branches follow the same laws as
recipients of Grants of Arms.

seems like this should say "All other branches follow the same laws as
recipients of Patent of Arms"

 as other branches currently follow the same laws as Patent of Arms and further down under "Helms" other branches would again follow the same laws as Patent of Arms... The difference being only one (1) supporter...

Paedric



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The second (current) draft of my Achievements Proposal has been put online.
The document is available here:
http://palybendy.wordpress.com/achievementsproposal/
My sincerest apologies for not having done this sooner.

Note that this is the same revision presented at Steppes Warlord. I have
been busy with personal matters and have not had the time to sit down and
revise it according to the feedback I got there.
Please contact me with comments, feedback, and/or questions.



Cool!  I agree with most everything.  Regarding mottoes (shameless plug for
my mottoes class at KC)-- the badge-plus-motto thing that F-D talks about is
specifically an impresa.  Some types of mottoes long predate badges.  There
is also the slogan, which can exist alongside another motto, especially in
Scotland (where two are borne, the slogan goes over the crest and the motto
goes on the compartment).  Regarding the registration of mottoes, both Lyon
and Garter only restrict identity of motto with royal mottoes; all others
are recorded, but not conflict-checked.  There is no reason why many people
cannot bear the same motto.  In Ansteorra, that would roughly restrict
variations on "unique and singular" but let pretty much anything else by.
It might be worth adding some language about where a motto can go and where
it can't--I'm not thrilled with the garter-esque treatment on the large
kingdom banner, but for the kingdom, it's not too bad.  It is right out for
an individual to do it, though.


Adelaide

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