[ANSTHRLD] Second Draft of Achievements Proposal Online

Pat Mullins paedrics at yahoo.com
Wed Jun 20 08:45:33 PDT 2012


It doesn't take much to figure out why people don't bother to register an achievement until they get "the good stuff". 

Here is what it says under AoA level (no good stuff) on the Achievement of Arms Registration and Guidelines page:

AoA
At the level of an Award of Arms a person may display their arms displaying the following:
Helm facing dexter and mantling (one color one metal)
Achievements at this level NEED NOT BE REGISTERED as even in period a gentle's mantling might change depending solely on what artist rendered his arms on a particular dish or other personal object. (Emphasis added)


This may give people the idea, right or wrong, that if its not worth registering (or even recording) it is not worth displaying.

If I could have a crest and/or motto, as was apparently common practice even for ordinary armigers, I would be MUCH more likely to display an achievement of arms. Otherwise, I'll just stick with my arms.

Just my (AoA level) two cents worth.
Lord Paedric OMullan



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 From: Scott Fridenberg <fitzmorgan at gmail.com>
To: "Heralds List, Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <heralds at lists.ansteorra.org> 
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 9:56 PM
Subject: Re: [ANSTHRLD] Second Draft of Achievements Proposal Online
 
I took a few moments to look at the Achievements that have been registered
in the OP.  I did not do a detailed look just a quick count.

Not counting Branches we had 156 Achievements.  I counted 57 Mottoes.
Since mottoes are reserved to Peers we have at least that many Peers, I
did notice a few people I knew to be peers who did not have a motto, but I
would say roughly 60% of those with registered Achievements were peers.  I
also counted 89 sets of supporters, which would give us a bit less than 60%
being Nobles.

Since Peers and Nobles make up about 60% of those who have registered an
Achievement, and they make up a much smaller portion of the population of
the Kingdom, this could lead some support to the idea that people are
more likely to register when  they get the motto and supporters.  It
might also mean that by the time you have risen to that rank you are
more likely to be aware that you can register and Achievement.

My subjective impression browsing the list is that it was heavily weighted
toward old timers.

I'm not sure if this adds anything to the discussion, but I figured that if
I was interested enough to go look, someone else might be interested too.

Robert Fitzmorgan
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