[ANSTHRLD] CDs in fieldless armory

Bob Wade logiosophia at yahoo.com
Mon Mar 5 16:19:26 PST 2012


_Tictureless_ armory is a special case of _fieldless_ armory.  They not only have no field, but no specified tincture for the charge (q.v. Lacy Knot, Orle of chain, etc).
 
None of the registrations you cited are tinctureless.  Meggett and de Boullounger are fieldless but have a tinctured charge.  They are clear of each other by changes to tincture of the field and to the tincture of the primary charge (argent to Or).
 
Would have to do a precedent dive to see if there's a CD between an ewer and a pitcher.  That's the only way for "(Fieldless) A pitcher sable" to be clear of "Argent, an ewer sable."

Tostig
 
Post Scriptum: While composing this Andreas said tinctureless armory is no longer registered.  Not quite true.  Individuals may no longer register tinctureless badges, but the Society can.  This may happen when the fourth peerage is finalized by the BoD.

--- On Mon, 3/5/12, Randy Shipp <randyshipp at gmail.com> wrote:


From: Randy Shipp <randyshipp at gmail.com>
Subject: [ANSTHRLD] CDs in fieldless armory
To: "Heralds List, Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <heralds at lists.ansteorra.org>
Date: Monday, March 5, 2012, 5:24 PM


Please pardon me if this is a silly question, but I'm trying to get my
head around how to check fieldless badges.  On the one hand, RfS
X.4.d, "Tincture Changes," says, "Tinctureless armory may not count
difference for tincture of charges; the Fieldless Difference will
count for one change and the second change must come from a category
that does not involve tincture."  But a quick look at OandA shows,
some registrations that don't seem to follow this.  Take, for
instance, a search for "Ewer":
(http://oanda.sca.org/oanda_desc.cgi?p=EWER%20AND%20PITCHER)

How does Miriam Meggett ((Fieldless) A pitcher argent) differ from
Angelica de Boullounger ((Fieldless) A lidded ewer Or) or ever Khadija
bint Umar (Argent, a ewer sable)?

How does this affect the registerability of a badge, "(Fieldless) A
pitcher sable"?

Yours in Service,

Antoine D'Aubernoun
Barony of the Steppes
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