[ANSTHRLD] Is the gore a peripheral or central ordinary?
Tim McDaniel
tmcd at panix.com
Wed Oct 10 08:56:20 PDT 2012
On Wed, 10 Oct 2012, Doug Bell <magnus77840 at yahoo.com> wrote:
77;10102;0c> The SCA Glossary has:
CoA Glossary. (To be even more precise,
GLOSSARY OF TERMS
As Used By The College of Arms of the Society for Creative
Anachronism, Inc.
A title that long would be glorious if surrounded by borders and
putti, and with more words like
Including Certain Tables Appertaining to
the Properties of a Number of Commonly Used Charges
And an Appendix to Clarify Terms
That Occasion Misuse from Time to Time
As Fully Updated and Revised in Anno Societatis the Thirty-Eighth
in the First Tenure as Laurel King of Arms of Da'ud ibn Auda
Now al-Jamal Herald in the Aforesaid College of Arms
And Who Otherwise Bears the Appelation of David Appleton in the
Modern World
"Parturient montes, nascetur ridiculus mus." -- Horace
But I digress.). http://heraldry.sca.org/coagloss.html
> Peripheral Charge Group.
> Gores and gussets are not peripheral charges (because they extend so
> far into the center of the field).
>
> So if a gore isn't a peripheral ordinary, is it a central ordinary?
My reflex is to reply "The easy way out is to call it a subordinary."
But that would be a smart alec response because I dislike the entire
fuzzy concept of "subordinary" (which I am astonished does not even
have its own headword in Parker).
> [February 2011 LoAR, R-Trimaris]
> Hala bint Yuhanna. Device. Barry Or and sable, a gore argent.
> This device is returned for conflict with the arms of Gonzaga
> (important non-SCA arms), Barry Or and sable. There is a single CD
> for the addition of the gore, which is a secondary charge.
>
> So the gore is not a peripheral charge but a secondary charge that
> extends far into the center of the field
So it appears.
> which is the definition of a central ordinary or central charge
> which is a primary charge group.
I'd say that the main definition is "The most important group of
charges in a piece of armory." The full text:
Primary Charge Group.
The most important group of charges in a piece of armory. In
blazons, the primary charge group is usually mentioned immediately
after the field (though a strewn charge group is not primary when
it is blazoned before a central charge group). If there is a
central ordinary lying entirely on the field, it is the primary
charge. If there is no such central ordinary, then the primary
charge group is the set of charges of the same size that lie in
the center of the design and directly on the field. An overall
charge can never be the primary charge. In any piece of armory
with charges there will always be a primary charge group, unless
the only charges are peripheral. There cannot be more than one
primary charge group in any given design. In Gules, a pale between
two mullets argent, the pale is the primary charge. In Or, a
maunche between three roundels azure the maunche is the primary
charge. In Per chevron argent and sable, two roses and a
fleur-de-lys counterchanged and on a chief purpure three hearts
argent, the roses and fleur-de-lys are the primary charge group,
because they are all of about the same size and in a standard
arrangement. In Azure semy of mullets and a chief argent the
strewn mullets are the primary charge group; in Azure semy of
mullets, an eagle and a chief argent the eagle is the primary
charge. In Sable, a lion Or, overall a bend argent, the lion is
the primary charge. In Azure, a chief Or there is no primary
charge group. See also Overall Charge Group, Peripheral Charge
Group, Secondary Charge Group, Semy, Tertiary Charge Group.
I don't think that "[[sub]ordinaries that] extend so far into the
center of the field" makes it a "central ordinary", or that it makes
it "the most important group of charges in a piece of armory".
Danyll de Lyncoln
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Tim McDaniel, tmcd at panix.com
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