[ANSTHRLD] Two-colored device help.

[S L Niemann]

One other way to bend that color on color is to make one or both of those
neutral.  Perhaps Per saltire gules and argent, a bordure sable. Or (and I
am really not sure of this stylistic piece) Per saltire gules and argent, a
bordure per saltire argent and sable. Neither have been conflict checked.
On Apr 10, 2013 9:48 AM, "Doug Bell" <magnus77840 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> You are correct that per saltire isn't as common in the SCA as other
> divisions. The only restriction on per saltire is it can't mix things that
> share the same base like argent and ermine.
>
> SENA A.3.B.3.c. Elements Divided Quarterly or Per Saltire: Elements
> divided quarterly or per saltire may use any two tinctures or furs, as long
> as they do not share a base tincture.
>
> What you have is field primary armory - it has no primary charge group. It
> is automatically clear of any armory that has a primary charge group.
>
> SENA A.5.E.1. Adding or Removing the Primary Charge Group: A new
> submission does not conflict with any protected armory if it adds a primary
> charge group or removes a primary charge group.  Thus, any armory which is
> field-primary does not conflict with any armory which has a primary charge
> group.
> For example, Per bend azure and Or, a clarion and a trefoil
> counterchanged, a chief indented argent does not conflict with Per bend
> azure and Or, a chief indented argent, because it adds a primary charge
> group of the clarion and the trefoil.  For example, Counter-ermine, a
> bordure argent pellety does not conflict with Counter-ermine, three
> lozenges argent, a bordure argent pellety, because it removes the primary
> charge group of the lozenges.
>
> You check it against items in Field Only (which have no charges)
> http://oanda.sca.org/oanda_desc.cgi?p=FO
>
> and items in Peripheral Only (has only a peripheral ordinary)
> http://oanda.sca.org/oanda_desc.cgi?p=PO
>
> If it's clear in both of those categories then it's clear.
>
> The rules of conflict for this type of armory are just different enough to
> confuse people.
>
> Magnus
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