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<P><FONT COLOR="#0000FF" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">How about</FONT>
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<P><FONT COLOR="#0000FF" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Fieldless, on a hunters horn Or a mullet of five/five sable surmounted by a pheon or.</FONT>
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<P><FONT COLOR="#0000FF" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Timothy</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=1 FACE="Arial">-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><B><FONT SIZE=1 FACE="Arial">From: </FONT></B> <FONT SIZE=1 FACE="Arial">Bordelon, Wendel [SMTP:Wendel_Bordelon@bmc.com]</FONT>
<BR><B><FONT SIZE=1 FACE="Arial">Sent: </FONT></B> <FONT SIZE=1 FACE="Arial">Wednesday, April 05, 2000 11:43 AM</FONT>
<BR><B><FONT SIZE=1 FACE="Arial">To: </FONT></B> <FONT SIZE=1 FACE="Arial">'heralds@ansteorra.org'</FONT>
<BR><B><FONT SIZE=1 FACE="Arial">Subject: </FONT></B> <FONT SIZE=1 FACE="Arial">RE: ANSTHRLD - Opinions Please</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">how about fieldless a mullet of 5 >/ 5 < sable a pheon or. </FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Doesn't get the horn that I like but Mari and I just checked and the only</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">possible conflict is:</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Richard of Mont Royal, the Short</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial"> The following badge associated with this name was registered in</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">June of 1973:</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial"> (Fieldless) On a star of David sable, a saltorel Or. </FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">And Darius, welcome to the telepathy circle of Heralds, Mari and I are on</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">the phone discussing semy of pheons when you sent your message :-)</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">--Francois</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">From: Darius and Monica [<A HREF="mailto:dmmerlick@earthlink.net">mailto:dmmerlick@earthlink.net</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2000 11:31 AM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">To: heralds@ansteorra.org</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Subject: Re: ANSTHRLD - Opinions Please</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Sable semy pheons Argent on a bend Or a hunters horn between two</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">mullets of five greater and five lesser points sable ?????</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Darius</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">"Bordelon, Wendel" wrote:</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">> I would like to see a hunting horn as part of the design, that has always</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">> seemed more like the symbol of a huntsman to me. I dont think the ring</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">of</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">> pheons will work because of identifiablity. And personally I think the</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">two</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">> long skinny things in saltire is over used.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">> how can we get an arrow or pheon, a hunter horn and an Ansteorran star in</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">a</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">> nice design? Doesn't have to be fieldless.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">> --Francois</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">> -----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">> From: Darius and Monica [<A HREF="mailto:dmmerlick@earthlink.net">mailto:dmmerlick@earthlink.net</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">> Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2000 10:50 AM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">> To: heralds@ansteorra.org</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">> Subject: Re: ANSTHRLD - Opinions Please</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">> Hmm interesting, however in the case of the "mullet of five pheons" the</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">> overlap area ends up as small and obsuring only a part of each pheon.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">> for better visual go to</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">> <A HREF="http://home.earthlink.net/~dmmerlick/huntsman.html" TARGET="_blank">http://home.earthlink.net/~dmmerlick/huntsman.html</A> These wern't done at</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">> he time of the original posting. (BTW these are the potential design</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">> ideas for the Royal Huntsman badge)</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">> HL Darius, Tressure Herald</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">> Doug Bell wrote:</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">> ></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">> > Southern regional kept everyone busy down here so</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">> > this is the first chance to look at this.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">> ></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">> > When I wander into armory it often gets me into trouble</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">> > but here goes anyway.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">> ></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">> > >1. (fieldless) Two arrows inverted in saltair gules over all</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">> > >a mullet of five greater and five lesser points Sable.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">> > >1. (fieldless) Two arrows inverted in saltair Or over all</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">> > >a mullet of five greater and five lesser points Sable.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">> > These look to be clear of problems.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">> ></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">> > >2. (fieldless) On a sheaf of arrows Gules a mullet of</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">> > >five greater and five lesser points Sable.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">> > >2. (fieldless) On a sheaf of arrows Or a mullet of five</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">> > >greater and five lesser points Sable.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">> > These look to be clear of problems.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">> ></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">> > >3. (fieldless) a mullet of five pheons Gules over all a mullet of five</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">> > >greater and five lesser points Sable.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">> > >3. (fieldless) a mullet of five pheons Or over all a mullet of five</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">> > >greater and five lesser points Sable.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">> > This looks to come under the ban on overall charges for</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">> > fieldless badges.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">> > "[On a compass star a castle] As draw[n], this violates our rules on</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">> > overall charges. The castle is not on the compass star, but overall.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">> > However, overall charges are only permitted in fieldless badges when</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">> > at least one of the charges is long and skinny, such that the area</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">> > of over lap is small and the identifiability of the charges is not</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">> > lost. (Jaelle of Armida, LoAR November 1996, p. 15)"</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">> ></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">> > Anyone else care to venture into this.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">> ></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">> > Magnus von Lubeck</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">> ></FONT>
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