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The intent is for an award rather than an order. The award confers a
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military rank as well as an armigerous rank. The military rank is
"Optio"
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(essentially an NCO or Sergeant level position).
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<br />Picking a nit here. According to the website I found
http://www.redrampant.com/roma/legiorank.html
<br />The Optio was a junior officer and the Princepales were the
NCOs
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<br /></font><i><b>Optiones</b></i>
<br /> 2nd or sometimes 3rd in command of a
century
because some Centuries had a 2nd Centurian then an Optio. The
Optio
carried a staff called a <i>hastile</i> - with an ornamental knob at top. In
battle he was stationed at the rear of the advancing
unit.
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<i><b>Princepales</b></i>
<br /> These were the non commisioned officers appointed to aid the officers.
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<br />Lord Donnchadh Beag mac Griogair
<br />Sable Storm Pursuivant
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Honorable Brotherhood of Brewers, Mazers, and Vintners
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From: "Etienne de St. Amaranth" <star@ansteorra.org>
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To: "Heralds List, Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc."
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Sent: Tue, 07 Sep 2004 15:53:30 -0500
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Subject: RE: [ANSTHRLD] Re: Optio
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<br />> At 02:25 PM 9/7/2004, Mari wrote:
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>I looked back through the messages in this thread and can't find any
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>indication of what the actual desired form of this order name is.
Should the
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>form of <Optio> actually used be singular or plural? Should the
whole order
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>name be in Latin? (Something like <Ordo Optionum> or whatever
the correct
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>genitve is for <Optio>.) Does anyone know the answers to these
questions?
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The intent is for an award rather than an order. The award confers a
<br />>
military rank as well as an armigerous rank. The military rank is
"Optio"
<br />>
(essentially an NCO or Sergeant level position).
<br />>
<br />>
Latin is desired for the whole name.
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Of the form options shown by Mari (I love that page on the Laurel site by
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the way), something like Group + Group, or Group + Place, seems most
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desireable. My Latin is horrible so I will say "Optio
Ansteorrae" or more
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directly (translate as needed) "Optio of Legio Ansteorrae" would be
the
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desire formation.
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Etienne
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