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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Mike,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I'm a little confused then. The Shire of
Gate's Edge has 2 orders, the Guardians of the Gate (given for serice to the
Shire) and the Bella Luce (given for A&S service and abilities).
They are both non-armigerous. The Guardian was created many years ago when
Gate's Edge was just a Canton. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>It sounds like the order Prudence is talking about
would be exactly like the Guardian of the Gate award that we give out. If
it's not please explain the difference. I read her question and thought
immediatly of the Guardian. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>In Service to the Dream,<BR>Lady Elizabeta Maria
dei Medici<BR>Maria Buchanan<BR>Official Worrier of House Starfire<BR>Hospitaler
- Barony of the Stargate<BR>Hospitaler - Shire of Gate's Edge<BR>In the Stellar
Kingdom of Ansteorra<BR>281-433-0347</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=kihebard@hotmail.com href="mailto:kihebard@hotmail.com">Mike C. Baker
/ Kihe Blackeagle</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=heralds@ansteorra.org
href="mailto:heralds@ansteorra.org">Heralds List, Kingdom of Ansteorra -
SCA,Inc.</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, November 13, 2005 1:06
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [ANSTHRLD] Shires and Thank
Yous</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>You've got it exactly and precisely so, Prudence.
<f/x: waving "Hi!" - we've met in Robin of Gilwell's living
room...> </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>In fact, I, and through me the Shire of Moonschadowe, got
slapped reasonably gently for trying to institute something similar [MUMBLE]
years ago...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>That being said, THERE ARE OTHER WAYS!
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>(A) Write award recommendations and submit them *as
individuals* (at least at first) to the appropriate authorities: the
Crown, regional superiors, Kingdom superiors.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>(B) Give wordfame in meetings, at events attended,
etc. (B-Plus) Memorialize their efforts / achievements in poem, tune,
tale and get same distributed "appropriately"</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>(C) As a collection of individuals, separate from existence
as branch officers and NOT using branch funds, give the individual it is
desired to honor a nifty neat narfgobbler or batwangler or other whatsit --
accompanied by appropriate flowery words, which it is possible to render in
the form of a scroll... </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Distinction is that if the people of the shire do (B) or (C)
nothing immediately gets reflected in the Order of Precedence. Enough
people going through (A), the recommendation process over time builds a
reputation beyond the immediate group, and the cumulative effect is
recognition by the appropriate precedence-carrying (or specifically
NON-precedence-carrying) award. (The Lion of Ansteorra technically
carries no precedence in the Order of Precedence, does not confer an AoA if
the recipient doesn't already have one, etc. [paraphrasing Robin of
Gilwell, current Oakenwald Purs.:] It is therefore among the most coveted
actively-given awards in the Kingdom of Ansteorra, and is recognized
throughout most of the Known World as being terribly and
wonderfully important.)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>Adieu, Amra / ttfn - Mike / Pax ... Kihe </DIV>
<DIV>Mike C. Baker<BR>SCA: al-Sayyid Amr ibn Majid al-Bakri
al-Amra<BR>"Other": Reverend Kihe Blackeagle PULC (the DreamSinger
Bard)<BR>Opinions? I'm FULL of 'em<BR>alt. e-mail: KiheBard@hotmail.com OR
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<DIV
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<A title=prudencecurious@netscape.net
href="mailto:prudencecurious@netscape.net">prudencecurious@netscape.net</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=heralds@ansteorra.org
href="mailto:heralds@ansteorra.org">heralds@ansteorra.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, November 12, 2005 10:07
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [ANSTHRLD] Shires and Thank
Yous</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana'">
<DIV>Greetings all,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I want to double check some information. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>At my last shire meeting, they talked about creating an award of some
sort to thank people for their good deeds, something far short of an
AOA.</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>Now, from my experience in the East Kingdom, this is NOT DONE.
(My shire back East got slapped six ways to Thursday for giving out a thank
you.) In no uncertain terms we were informed that shires cannot give
out awards or orders, that is reserved for the Crown and Baronies; and if we
want to give out awards, we better become a barony. It was highly
recommended to my old shire that it does absolute nothing that even has the
APPEARANCE of an award or order.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I toned this down a lot and said it in the business meeting for my new
shire; it was my first official meeting as acting herald and I hope I
imparted correct information. That is: "a shire cannot give out awards
or orders, that is reserved for the Crown and Baronies." Is this
correct in Ansteorra?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Ever a Servant,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Lady Prudence the Curious</DIV>
<DIV>Acting Herald of the Shire of Emerald Keep</DIV></DIV>
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