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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Jayme, yes they go back to the days of the Canton
of Gates Edge. However, before this gets to a point of people saying no
you can not have them let me explain. These are not nor have ever intended
to be orders. They are simply a recognition of select people within the
shire by others. The Guardians of the Gate is giving by those who have
received it before to one that they feel has shown that they are an example of
what we believe one should put forth as a member of the shire. Candidates
are chosen only by those previously acknowledged. The shire is asked to
suggest possible candidates but the final vote is by former Guardians. It
carries absolutely no precedence what so ever. Never has and never
will. One of the reason we do not call ourselves a order. The Bella
Luce is a scroll or token given by the group seneschal to the artisan/s that
he/she feels has done the most work in the artistic fields for the shire.
Once again the Seneschal may ask the populace for suggestions but is not
required to pick from those. Neither of these are given out every
year. Some years they may have multiple people given these. The
medallions given out were originally made by Baroness Adelicia Braebent, hand
painted and paid for out of her own pocket. Mistress Annes Clotilde von
Bamberg has made the last set that was given out I believe, again paid for by
herself. The Bella Luce's given out have also been paid for or donated by
a member of the shire or the Seneschal. We who are been given these do
wear them with pride as they are given by our peers within the Shire but know
that they bear naught outside of our little group. With the above
explanation I believe that it can been seen that we meet Kihe definition on B
and C. I hope this clears things up and thank you for the time to explain
this. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Lord Iaen Mor</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Shire of Gates Edge</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>John Moore</DIV>
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<A title=jpercer@gmail.com href="mailto:jpercer@gmail.com">Joseph Percer</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=heralds@ansteorra.org
href="mailto:heralds@ansteorra.org">'Heralds List, Kingdom of Ansteorra -
SCA,Inc.'</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, November 13, 2005 1:06
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [ANSTHRLD] Shires and Thank
Yous</DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I would wager those
stem from the days when Gate’s Edge was part of Stargate. However, I couldn’t
say for sure… Star, if you’re out there, can you weigh in on
this?</SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Jayme</SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Seawinds</SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> <A
href="mailto:heralds-bounces+jpercer=gmail.com@ansteorra.org">heralds-bounces+jpercer=gmail.com@ansteorra.org</A>
[mailto:heralds-bounces+jpercer=gmail.com@ansteorra.org] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Maria<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Sunday, November 13, 2005 10:37
AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Heralds List, Kingdom
of Ansteorra - SCA,Inc.<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [ANSTHRLD] Shires and Thank
Yous</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Mike,</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I'm a little confused then.
The Shire of Gate's Edge has 2 orders, the Guardians of the Gate (given for
serice to the Shire) and the Bella Luce (given for A&S service and
abilities). They are both non-armigerous. The Guardian was created
many years ago when Gate's Edge was just a Canton.
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size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">It sounds like the order Prudence
is talking about would be exactly like the Guardian of the Gate award that we
give out. If it's not please explain the difference. I read her
question and thought immediatly of the Guardian.
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">In Service to the Dream,<BR>Lady
Elizabeta Maria dei Medici<BR>Maria Buchanan<BR>Official Worrier of House
Starfire<BR>Hospitaler - Barony of the Stargate<BR>Hospitaler - Shire of
Gate's Edge<BR>In the Stellar Kingdom of
Ansteorra<BR>281-433-0347</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A
title=kihebard@hotmail.com href="mailto:kihebard@hotmail.com">Mike C. Baker
/ Kihe Blackeagle</A> </SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">To:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A
title=heralds@ansteorra.org href="mailto:heralds@ansteorra.org">Heralds
List, Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA,Inc.</A> </SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Sent:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Sunday,
November 13, 2005 1:06 AM</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Subject:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Re:
[ANSTHRLD] Shires and Thank Yous</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">You've got it exactly and precisely so,
Prudence. <f/x: waving "Hi!" - we've met in Robin of Gilwell's
living room...> </SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">In fact, I, and through me the Shire of
Moonschadowe, got slapped reasonably gently for trying to institute
something similar [MUMBLE] years ago...</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">That being said, THERE ARE OTHER
WAYS! </SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">(A) Write award recommendations and
submit them *as individuals* (at least at first) to the appropriate
authorities: the Crown, regional superiors, Kingdom
superiors.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">(B) Give wordfame in meetings, at
events attended, etc. (B-Plus) Memorialize their efforts /
achievements in poem, tune, tale and get same distributed
"appropriately"</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">(C) As a collection of individuals,
separate from existence as branch officers and NOT using branch funds, give
the individual it is desired to honor a nifty neat narfgobbler or batwangler
or other whatsit -- accompanied by appropriate flowery words, which it is
possible to render in the form of a scroll... </SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Distinction is that if the people of
the shire do (B) or (C) nothing immediately gets reflected in the Order of
Precedence. Enough people going through (A), the recommendation
process over time builds a reputation beyond the immediate group, and the
cumulative effect is recognition by the appropriate precedence-carrying (or
specifically NON-precedence-carrying) award. (The Lion of Ansteorra
technically carries no precedence in the Order of Precedence, does not
confer an AoA if the recipient doesn't already have one, etc.
[paraphrasing Robin of Gilwell, current Oakenwald Purs.:] It is therefore
among the most coveted actively-given awards in the Kingdom of Ansteorra,
and is recognized throughout most of the Known World as being terribly and
wonderfully important.)</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Adieu, Amra / ttfn - Mike / Pax ...
Kihe </SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Mike C. Baker<BR>SCA: al-Sayyid Amr ibn
Majid al-Bakri al-Amra<BR>"Other": Reverend Kihe Blackeagle PULC (the
DreamSinger Bard)<BR>Opinions? I'm FULL of 'em<BR>alt. e-mail:
KiheBard@hotmail.com OR MCBaker216@cs.com<BR> Buy my
writings!: http://www.lulu.com/WizardsDen<BR>
http://www.livejournal.com/users/kihebard/<BR> </SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A
title=prudencecurious@netscape.net
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size=2><SPAN
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face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A
title=heralds@ansteorra.org
href="mailto:heralds@ansteorra.org">heralds@ansteorra.org</A>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Sent:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
Saturday, November 12, 2005 10:07 PM</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Subject:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
[ANSTHRLD] Shires and Thank Yous</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Verdana
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Greetings
all,</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Verdana
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">I want to
double check some information. </SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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size=2><SPAN
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Verdana
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">At my last
shire meeting, they talked about creating an award of some sort to thank
people for their good deeds, something far short of an
AOA.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Verdana
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Now, from my
experience in the East Kingdom, this is NOT DONE. (My shire back
East got slapped six ways to Thursday for giving out a thank you.)
In no uncertain terms we were informed that shires cannot give out awards
or orders, that is reserved for the Crown and Baronies; and if we want to
give out awards, we better become a barony. It was highly
recommended to my old shire that it does absolute nothing that even has
the APPEARANCE of an award or order.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Verdana
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">I toned this
down a lot and said it in the business meeting for my new shire; it was my
first official meeting as acting herald and I hope I imparted correct
information. That is: "a shire cannot give out awards or orders, that
is reserved for the Crown and Baronies." Is this correct in
Ansteorra?</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Verdana
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Ever a
Servant,</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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