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I called the client back to double check, and what she was picturing
originally was a tierce argent fimbriated ermine (along with the rest
of the device), but now that she is aware of the problem with
fimbriation, she is dropping that and thinking about whether she wants
the tierce to be argent or ermine. I conflict checked both, (all
tierces I found are listed as flaunches in the armory description), and
as far as I can tell either passes.<br>
<br>
She is also looking at doing a badge as well (especially if she goes
with ermine for the tierce), of Vert, a lily argent slipped and leaved
Or. I thought for sure that would be taken, but when I checked I could
only find one device that even came close:<br>
<br>
<a
href="http://oanda.sca.org/cgi-bin/oanda_name.cgi?p=Minowara%20Kiritsubo">Minowara
Kiritsubo</a>The following badge associated with this name was
registered <a
href="http://oanda.sca.org/cgi-bin/oanda_date.cgi?y1=1982&m1=December&y2=1982&m2=December&kQ=checked">in
December of 1982 (via Atlantia)</a>:<br>
<b>Vert, a calla lily blossom proper within a bordure Or.</b><br>
for <a
href="http://oanda.sca.org/cgi-bin/oanda_name.cgi?p=Eleanor%20Aison%20of%20Devon">Eleanor
Aison of Devon</a><br>
<br>
I'm not sure if there would be a CD between a calla lily blossom proper
and a lily argent slipped and leaved Or. One for color maybe? I'm not
sure what the proper color for a calla lily blossom is.<br>
<br>
Donnchadh<br>
<br>
sandra goodrich wrote:
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cite="mid20060226170302.24856.qmail@web81505.mail.mud.yahoo.com"
type="cite">
<div>The cotises and fibriation are part of the uddle, the tierce is
plain ole' ermine, ;-)</div>
<div>...'Stacia<br>
<br>
<b><i><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:tmcd@panix.com">tmcd@panix.com</a></i></b> wrote:</div>
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style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px;">On
Sat, 25 Feb 2006, sandra goodrich <TGNST@SWBELL.NET>wrote:<br>
> Danial... I helped the client with this befor she took it to our<br>
> herald, the Lady is blind, so there is a muddle in translation,
what<br>
> we came up with was Vert, a lilly slipped and leaved argent, a<br>
> tierce ermine,<br>
<br>
OK: green field, a natural lily with white blossom (side view), stem,<br>
and leaves, and the left 1/3 of the field is ermine, right?<br>
<br>
>> > Now one other thing my client would like is a pale (or
palet)<br>
>> > ermine where the argent and vert meet. Is this possible
since the<br>
>> > tierce is an ordinary and not a field devision?<br>
>><br>
>> Drawing a thin line to! delimit the outline of a charge is
called<br>
>> "fimbriation". This thin line is an outline, touching the
charge at<br>
>> all points, not set off a little ways like "racing stripes"<br>
>> (cotises).<br>
<br>
With a tierce ermine, ermine fimbriation wouldn't make sense, so I'm<br>
thinking you mean "cotised". That's where there's a "racing stripe"<br>
running parallel to but not touching the charge, like<br>
<br>
| ##### |<br>
| ##### |<br>
| ##### |<br>
| ##### |<br>
| ##### |<br>
| ##### |<br>
| ##### |<br>
| ##### |<br>
| ##### |<br>
| ##### |<br>
<br>
I was pretty certain that there were precedents on cotising peripheral<br>
ordinaries and on ermine cotises, but I can't find any.<br>
<br>
My strong suspicion is that you can't have an ermine cotise, for the<br>
same reason you can't have ermine fimbriation: the stripe is too<br>
narrow to show ermining well. The only ermine cotises registered were<br>
in 1985, but a precedent that old allowing something is almost<br>
useless.<br>
<br>
Th! e only cotises I've seen have been on central ordinaries, which have<br>
two sides, and I strongly suspect that, as with fimbriation, you can't<br>
fimbriate a peripheral charge.<br>
<br>
She can send it up as a test case, but it would take upwards of a year<br>
and I would be inclined to bet some money against its registration.<br>
<br>
Daniel de Lindicolino<br>
-- <br>
"Me, I love the USA; I never miss an episode." -- Paul "Fruitbat" Sleigh<br>
Tim McDaniel; Reply-To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:tmcd@panix.com">tmcd@panix.com</a><br>
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