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<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Etienne said: </div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><div><div dir="ltr" style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">My two cents. The CBs given to former landed are the norm and the expectation. Even some vicars have gotten a CB after their duty. But they are not automatically guaranteed. So the Crown for the CB after landed should be the Crown who gives it, not the Crown who originally invested them as landed.<br></div><div dir="ltr" style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">Respectfully,<br></div><div dir="ltr" style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">Maitr Etienne de St. Amaranth, OP<br></div></div><div dir="ltr" style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;"><br></div><div dir="ltr" style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" data-setdir="false">Yep, I agree, the Crown who granted the CB is the one of record on the scroll with the date and time of the giving. I believe the date was set to go back to their taking the office of landed, so as to not have a gap in their OP position, and to not have a gap in their entitlement to Nobility. However, the Crown that granted the CB after retirement is the one of record for the OP. </div><div dir="ltr" style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" data-setdir="false">Hillary Greenslade, OP</div><br></div><div><br></div>
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On Friday, November 8, 2019, 03:03:27 PM CST, heralds-request@lists.ansteorra.org <heralds-request@lists.ansteorra.org> wrote:
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<div><div dir="ltr">Send Heralds mailing list submissions to<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <a ymailto="mailto:heralds@lists.ansteorra.org" href="mailto:heralds@lists.ansteorra.org">heralds@lists.ansteorra.org</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <a href="http://lists.ansteorra.org/listinfo.cgi/heralds-ansteorra.org" target="_blank">http://lists.ansteorra.org/listinfo.cgi/heralds-ansteorra.org</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <a ymailto="mailto:heralds-request@lists.ansteorra.org" href="mailto:heralds-request@lists.ansteorra.org">heralds-request@lists.ansteorra.org</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">You can reach the person managing the list at<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <a ymailto="mailto:heralds-owner@lists.ansteorra.org" href="mailto:heralds-owner@lists.ansteorra.org">heralds-owner@lists.ansteorra.org</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br></div><div dir="ltr">than "Re: Contents of Heralds digest..."<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Today's Topics:<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> 1. CoH Monthly Reporting having issues (Obelisk Herald)<br></div><div dir="ltr"> 2. Re: CoH Monthly Reporting having issues (Obelisk Herald)<br></div><div dir="ltr"> 3. CBs and BiFs in new OP code (Zodiacus Herald)<br></div><div dir="ltr"> 4. Re: CBs and BiFs in new OP code (Etienne de St. Amaranth)<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">----------------------------------------------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Message: 1<br></div><div dir="ltr">Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2019 18:14:41 -0600<br></div><div dir="ltr">From: Obelisk Herald <<a ymailto="mailto:obelisk@herald.ansteorra.org" href="mailto:obelisk@herald.ansteorra.org">obelisk@herald.ansteorra.org</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">To: "<a ymailto="mailto:heralds@lists.ansteorra.org" href="mailto:heralds@lists.ansteorra.org">heralds@lists.ansteorra.org</a>" <<a ymailto="mailto:heralds@lists.ansteorra.org" href="mailto:heralds@lists.ansteorra.org">heralds@lists.ansteorra.org</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: [ANSTHRLD] CoH Monthly Reporting having issues<br></div><div dir="ltr">Message-ID: <<a ymailto="mailto:5dc4b36f.1c69fb81.ebe7f.9d17@mx.google.com" href="mailto:5dc4b36f.1c69fb81.ebe7f.9d17@mx.google.com">5dc4b36f.1c69fb81.ebe7f.9d17@mx.google.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Just a FYI, it appears that the online monthly report form seems to be having issues.? I will be looking into it. ?Everything seems to be working but the sender does not seem to be getting their copy of the messages, not does anyone they copy on them. <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Though it is possible that the regionals are still getting them. I am not yet sure what has happened as there has been no code changed on those pages in a long time.? So my first thought is Dreamhost may have made some sort of server change.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">I will respond back when it has been resolved.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Thanks,<br></div><div dir="ltr">Alasdair<br></div><div dir="ltr">-------------- next part --------------<br></div><div dir="ltr">An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br></div><div dir="ltr">URL: <<a href="http://lists.ansteorra.org/pipermail/heralds-ansteorra.org/attachments/20191107/560efd3d/attachment-0001.html" target="_blank">http://lists.ansteorra.org/pipermail/heralds-ansteorra.org/attachments/20191107/560efd3d/attachment-0001.html</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Message: 2<br></div><div dir="ltr">Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2019 19:19:07 -0600<br></div><div dir="ltr">From: Obelisk Herald <<a ymailto="mailto:obelisk@herald.ansteorra.org" href="mailto:obelisk@herald.ansteorra.org">obelisk@herald.ansteorra.org</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">To: "<a ymailto="mailto:heralds@lists.ansteorra.org" href="mailto:heralds@lists.ansteorra.org">heralds@lists.ansteorra.org</a>" <<a ymailto="mailto:heralds@lists.ansteorra.org" href="mailto:heralds@lists.ansteorra.org">heralds@lists.ansteorra.org</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [ANSTHRLD] CoH Monthly Reporting having issues<br></div><div dir="ltr">Message-ID: <<a ymailto="mailto:5dc4c28a.1c69fb81.3e5dd.9edb@mx.google.com" href="mailto:5dc4c28a.1c69fb81.3e5dd.9edb@mx.google.com">5dc4c28a.1c69fb81.3e5dd.9edb@mx.google.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">OK. So the reports have been tested and seem to be working fine. Just some email being slow getting where it needed to go it turned out. That and messages getting caught in the SPAM filter. At least for the tests.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">So if you are not getting the messages please be patient and also check the SPAM filter. If you don?t get your copy please check with your regional to see if they got theirs and I can check and see if it looks like it should have been sent out.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Thanks,<br></div><div dir="ltr">Alasdair<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">From: Obelisk Herald<br></div><div dir="ltr">Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 6:14 PM<br></div><div dir="ltr">To: <a ymailto="mailto:heralds@lists.ansteorra.org" href="mailto:heralds@lists.ansteorra.org">heralds@lists.ansteorra.org</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: CoH Monthly Reporting having issues<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Just a FYI, it appears that the online monthly report form seems to be having issues.? I will be looking into it. ?Everything seems to be working but the sender does not seem to be getting their copy of the messages, not does anyone they copy on them. <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Though it is possible that the regionals are still getting them. I am not yet sure what has happened as there has been no code changed on those pages in a long time.? So my first thought is Dreamhost may have made some sort of server change.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">I will respond back when it has been resolved.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Thanks,<br></div><div dir="ltr">Alasdair<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">-------------- next part --------------<br></div><div dir="ltr">An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br></div><div dir="ltr">URL: <<a href="http://lists.ansteorra.org/pipermail/heralds-ansteorra.org/attachments/20191107/f8a3c6d1/attachment-0001.html" target="_blank">http://lists.ansteorra.org/pipermail/heralds-ansteorra.org/attachments/20191107/f8a3c6d1/attachment-0001.html</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Message: 3<br></div><div dir="ltr">Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2019 11:45:13 -0600<br></div><div dir="ltr">From: Zodiacus Herald <<a ymailto="mailto:zodiacus@herald.ansteorra.org" href="mailto:zodiacus@herald.ansteorra.org">zodiacus@herald.ansteorra.org</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">To: <a ymailto="mailto:heralds@lists.ansteorra.org" href="mailto:heralds@lists.ansteorra.org">heralds@lists.ansteorra.org</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: [ANSTHRLD] CBs and BiFs in new OP code<br></div><div dir="ltr">Message-ID:<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <CAJzhn_DEwitpXwCghP8vfVAH7=<a ymailto="mailto:1FxknUjxWLOv8fbUJvj3JgTw@mail.gmail.com" href="mailto:1FxknUjxWLOv8fbUJvj3JgTw@mail.gmail.com">1FxknUjxWLOv8fbUJvj3JgTw@mail.gmail.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Part of the new code for the OP identifies what event and what crown gave<br></div><div dir="ltr">that award. Which is just fine and dandy and awesome. Except for one teensy<br></div><div dir="ltr">tiny thing that I keep flipping back and forth on.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Court Baronies given to stepping down Barony-in-Fiefs.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">They are automatically back dated to when they first stepped up to the BiF.<br></div><div dir="ltr">So should the designated Crown be the ones who 1) granted the BiF or 2)<br></div><div dir="ltr">granted the CB? And what event should be listed - the BiF or the CB?<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">And currently we list out in the notes "barony name date-date" to show that<br></div><div dir="ltr">someone served as a BiF. But if keeping track of the BiF & Crown doing so<br></div><div dir="ltr">is important (which I think it is) maybe we need a purely database-relevant<br></div><div dir="ltr">new entry of, for example, OldBiF with date, Crown & event. Hm, it could be<br></div><div dir="ltr">given a rank of 20 so it wouldn't interfere with anyone's OP rank.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">So your thoughts on this are welcome. I'm posting this on the Ansteorran<br></div><div dir="ltr">Heraldic Consultation FB list too. Reply where it's easier for you.<br></div><div dir="ltr">-------------- next part --------------<br></div><div dir="ltr">An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br></div><div dir="ltr">URL: <<a href="http://lists.ansteorra.org/pipermail/heralds-ansteorra.org/attachments/20191108/bc847888/attachment-0001.html" target="_blank">http://lists.ansteorra.org/pipermail/heralds-ansteorra.org/attachments/20191108/bc847888/attachment-0001.html</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Message: 4<br></div><div dir="ltr">Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2019 12:28:59 -0600<br></div><div dir="ltr">From: "Etienne de St. Amaranth" <<a ymailto="mailto:st.amaranth@yahoo.com" href="mailto:st.amaranth@yahoo.com">st.amaranth@yahoo.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">To: "Heralds List, Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc."<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <<a ymailto="mailto:heralds@lists.ansteorra.org" href="mailto:heralds@lists.ansteorra.org">heralds@lists.ansteorra.org</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [ANSTHRLD] CBs and BiFs in new OP code<br></div><div dir="ltr">Message-ID: <<a ymailto="mailto:F0A6503C-208F-4E7A-AF62-71DF661A91FE@yahoo.com" href="mailto:F0A6503C-208F-4E7A-AF62-71DF661A91FE@yahoo.com">F0A6503C-208F-4E7A-AF62-71DF661A91FE@yahoo.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">My two cents. The CBs given to former landed are the norm and the expectation. Even some vicars have gotten a CB after their duty. But they are not automatically guaranteed. So the Crown for the CB after landed should be the Crown who gives it, not the Crown who originally invested them as landed.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Respectfully,<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr">Maitr? Etienne de St. Amaranth, OP<br></div><div dir="ltr">Verger Herald Extraordinaire<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">> On Nov 8, 2019, at 11:45 AM, Zodiacus Herald <<a ymailto="mailto:zodiacus@herald.ansteorra.org" href="mailto:zodiacus@herald.ansteorra.org">zodiacus@herald.ansteorra.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> Part of the new code for the OP identifies what event and what crown gave that award. Which is just fine and dandy and awesome. Except for one teensy tiny thing that I keep flipping back and forth on. <br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> Court Baronies given to stepping down Barony-in-Fiefs. <br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> They are automatically back dated to when they first stepped up to the BiF. So should the designated Crown be the ones who 1) granted the BiF or 2) granted the CB? And what event should be listed - the BiF or the CB? <br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> And currently we list out in the notes "barony name date-date" to show that someone served as a BiF. But if keeping track of the BiF & Crown doing so is important (which I think it is) maybe we need a purely database-relevant new entry of, for example, OldBiF with date, Crown & event. Hm, it could be given a rank of 20 so it wouldn't interfere with anyone's OP rank. <br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> So your thoughts on this are welcome. I'm posting this on the Ansteorran Heraldic Consultation FB list too. 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