HERB - Re: herbalist V1 #54

Sun Jul 19 23:23:33 PDT 1998

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>herbalist            Friday, July 17 1998            Volume 01 : Number 054
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>In this issue:
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>    Re: HERB - Herbs of the week
>    HERB - Myrrh
>    Re: HERB - Herbs of the week
>    Re: HERB - Myrrh
>    Re: HERB - Myrrh
>    Re: HERB - Myrrh
>    HERB - Giambattista della Porta's _Magia Naturalis_ online
>    Re: HERB - Myrrh
>    Re: HERB - Herbs of the week
>    Re: HERB - basil & scented geranium
>    HERB - scented geranium
>    Re: HERB - basil & scented geranium
>    Re: HERB - basil & scented geranium
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>Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 08:36:35 EDT
>From: RAISYA at aol.com
>Subject: Re: HERB - Herbs of the week
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>Let's see, caraway's a hardy biennial that's related to dill, and looks a lot
>like it.  In southern areas, it can be started in fall for harvest the next
>summer.  Further north, it needs to be started in the early summer at the
>latest to allow growth time before cold weather.  It needs a rich loam and
>full sun.   Besides the seed and the leaves, the roots are also edible.
>
>Clary sage is a hardy biennial, unlike most sages.  It needs full sun and
>dryish soil with good drainage.  It's supposed to have pretty lilac flowers.
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>I haven't really done much with either of these, anyone know more?
>
>Raisya Khorivovna
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>Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 09:07:24 EDT
>From: LrdRas at aol.com
>Subject: HERB - Myrrh
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>In a message dated 7/16/98 1:00:36 AM Eastern Daylight Time, owner-
>herbalist at Ansteorra.ORG writes:
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><< myrrh - good for teeth and gums, cleansing smoke, antibacterial-acts as
> preservative
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> Clare >>
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>Myrrh? Are myrrh plants available commercially? Will they grow in temperate
>climates? I am excited at the possibility of growing my own myrhh tree. Any
>info would be welcome.
>
>A'aql (pronounced)
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>Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 08:41:27 -0600
>From: "N.D. Wederstrandt" <nweders at mail.utexas.edu>
>Subject: Re: HERB - Herbs of the week
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> I was unaware that you could eat caraway roots.  It makes sense but I
>hadn't thought that far.  Do they taste carroty or carawayish, I wonder.
>
>Clare
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>Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 09:11:07 -0600
>From: "N.D. Wederstrandt" <nweders at mail.utexas.edu>
>Subject: Re: HERB - Myrrh
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> As far as I know you can't grow myrrh in the US but I can't say that for
>sure...  At one of the parks here, they are storax trees which produce a
>really nice resin.  I think they may be from the same general family of
>trees.  Sweet Cecily is also a myrrh smelling plant and can be grown in the
>US but doesn't produce resins.
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>When I use myrrh, I use the resins that you can buy.  These are easily
>dissolved in alcohol to form tinctures.  i also really like myyrh as
>incense and have made that as well.
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>Does anyone else know if mrryh can be grown in the US?
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>Sorry,
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>Clare
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>Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 11:01:20 EDT
>From: RAISYA at aol.com
>Subject: Re: HERB - Myrrh
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>I think myrrh's a very tender small tree (about 8').  It may be possible to
>grow it in a large pot; otherwise, I think it's limited to completely frost
>free areas of the country.  I'm guessing, but it may not tolerate humidity
>very well.
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>I hopes someone else knows more <G>.
>
>Clare, how do you make incense?
>
>Raisya
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>Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 11:12:18 -0400
>From: "Gaylin Walli" <g.walli at infoengine.com>
>Subject: Re: HERB - Myrrh
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>>I hopes someone else knows more <G>.
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>Maude Grieve's Herbal sez:
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>"The bushes yielding the resin do not grow more than 9 feet in
>height, but they are of sturdy build, with knotted branches, and
>branchlets that stand out at right-angles, ending in a sharp spine.
>The trifoliate leaves are scanty, small and very unequal, oval and
>entire. It was first recognized about 1822 at Ghizan on the Red
>Sea coast, a district so bare and dry that it is called 'Tehama,'
>meaning 'hell.'"
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>http://www.botanical.com/botanical/mgmh/m/myrrh-66.html
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>So I would hazard a guess that it wouldn't grow here in the US,
>with the exception of certain portions of Texas right now.
>
>Jasmine de Cordoba, Midrealm (Metro-Detroit area of Michigan)
>jasmine at infoengine.com or g.walli at infoengine.com
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>"Si enim alicui placet mea devotio, gaudebo; si autem
>nulli placet, memet ipsam tamen juvat quod feci."
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>Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 11:07:48 -0400
>From: "Gaylin Walli" <g.walli at infoengine.com>
>Subject: HERB - Giambattista della Porta's _Magia Naturalis_ online
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>I just discovered that John Baptist Porta's (Giambattista della Porta,
>1537-1615) "Magia Naturalis" is actually online. Don't know how many
>people are interested or know about this work, but it's nice to see
>it being worked on. Here is the URL that I found it at (the update
>notes say that it was supposedly moved to levity.com, but I couldn't
>find it there):
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>http://janeway.tscnet.com/pages/omard1/jportat5.html
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>Jasmine de Cordoba, Midrealm (Metro-Detroit area of Michigan)
>jasmine at infoengine.com or g.walli at infoengine.com
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>"Si enim alicui placet mea devotio, gaudebo; si autem
>nulli placet, memet ipsam tamen juvat quod feci."
>- -- Hroswith of Gandersheim
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>Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 16:51:37 EDT
>From: RAISYA at aol.com
>Subject: Re: HERB - Myrrh
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>Thanks, Jasmine!  Hm, I think a lot of Texas could qualify as "hell" right
now
><G>.  Houston's heat index was 116F Tuesday.
>
>BTW, how's all the potted basil doing?
>
>Raisya
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>Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 16:51:49 EDT
>From: RAISYA at aol.com
>Subject: Re: HERB - Herbs of the week
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>I haven't been able to test caraway root yet, my one planting last fall got
>drowned out.  I'm planning to try again this fall.  The roots are cooked by
>boiling like other root vegetables.
>
>Raisya
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>Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 17:06:21 -0400
>From: "Gaylin Walli" <g.walli at infoengine.com>
>Subject: Re: HERB - basil & scented geranium
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>116F? GOOD GRIEF! Come visit me. I swear I'll let you have
>you're own bedroom and a cat to pet. It's hot in metro-Detroit,
>but not *that* hot!
>
>Raisya kindly asked:
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>>BTW, how's all the potted basil doing?
>
>Quite well, actually. It's already been harvested once and
>desperately needs it again. My boss (son of the man who
>left me the plants) came into my office just now and said
>"don't be suprised by naked basil plants tomorrow." I
>can't believe how hearty these plants are. The oregano
>that came next to it has pretty much filled up the pot it's
>in too.
>
>Now as to another plant that I was gifted with (well, I
>paid something like $5 for it)....I have a ginger-scented
>geranium that I picked up at a farmer's market over the
>weekend. None of my books talk about this plant from an
>historical perspective. And I have a lot of books. Do
>we know of any period refs for these plants or is it a
>recent invetion? The reason I ask is, well, don't hurt
>me....this plant that I picked up comes up to my chest
>in height and I'm roughly 5'7" tall. IT'S HUGE. I'll
>probably do this anyway, but what do we know about
>period *topiary*? Anything?
>
>Jasmine de Cordoba, Midrealm (Metro-Detroit area of Michigan)
>jasmine at infoengine.com or g.walli at infoengine.com
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>"Si enim alicui placet mea devotio, gaudebo; si autem
>nulli placet, memet ipsam tamen juvat quod feci."
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>Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 16:33:06 -0600
>From: "N.D. Wederstrandt" <nweders at mail.utexas.edu>
>Subject: HERB - scented geranium
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> Scented geraniums aren't period and I don't have any books about them
>today at work.  There is a period geraniums (cranebill) but it's not the
>same plant that the Pelargoniums(sp)  are. i love scented geraniums and
>don't care.  My grandmother grew them in California where I was raised and
>I have great memories of them.  the Girl Scout hut had a scented geranium
>plot with about twenty five kinds.    They imprinted on me I guess.  The
>fuzzy leaved peppermint and the rose geranium are some of my favorites.  If
>you get two kinds of scented g. and pollinate them you can get interesting
>hybrids that smell differently from each other.....
>
>	Topiary is period, especially in te Mediterranean countries.....
>There are numerous little potted Topiaries in the backgrounds of a lot of
>Italian paintings as well.  There's also a book called "Interior
>Landscapes" that talks about a history of potted plants, plant murals,
>flowers  and the concept of bringing nature for indoors.  It a really small
>book with some great pictures for source info.  If you like I can post the
>name and ISBM number.  I also have a small hardback book called  "The
>Potted Plant" that is all about maodern topiaries.
>
>Raisya's correct, it's been incredibily hot down here.  Austin's had some
>highs but we're not a humid as Houston so it probably doesn't feel as bad.
>Plus we're also in a drought.  i've lost my rose geranium and an exotic
>passionflower that had huge white blooms with purple coronas.
>Maybe next year......
>
>Clare
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>Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 17:49:38 -0400 (EDT)
>From: Jenne Heise <jenne at tulgey.browser.net>
>Subject: Re: HERB - basil & scented geranium
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>On Thu, 16 Jul 1998, Gaylin Walli wrote:
>> Now as to another plant that I was gifted with (well, I
>> paid something like $5 for it)....I have a ginger-scented
>> geranium that I picked up at a farmer's market over the
>> weekend. None of my books talk about this plant from an
>> historical perspective. And I have a lot of books. Do
>> we know of any period refs for these plants or is it a
>> recent invetion? 
>
>Scented geraniums, according to Clarkson's _Enchanted Gardens_, come from
>one of the Capes, and were not known in Europe, upper Africa, or Asia in
>period...
>
>Jadwiga Zajaczkowa (Shire of Eisental; HERMS Cyclonus) 
>         aka Aunt Bunny, mka Jennifer Heise	
>jenne at tulgey.browser.net
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>Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 18:27:05 EDT
>From: RAISYA at aol.com
>Subject: Re: HERB - basil & scented geranium
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>Jasmine,
>
>>116F? GOOD GRIEF! Come visit me. I swear I'll let you have
>>you're own bedroom and a cat to pet. It's hot in metro-Detroit,
>>but not *that* hot!
>
>Well, the thermometer has been around 99 - 102F, not quite as bad as some
>other areas of the state, but the humidity here is incredible (95%+ for about
>5 months).   There are jokes about people from Houston having gills <G>.
>
>My own bedroom and a cat to pet?  That's tempting <G>!  BTW, where in Detroit
>do you live?  My in-laws live just south of Davison.
>
>I made pesto just yesterday, I'm using it to make tomato-less pizzas.
>
>I had no idea that geraniums got that big!  I admit I don't know a lot about
>any sort of geranium, though.  Clare already answered about period topiary.
>
>Raisya
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