[Herbalist] Re: Mailorder source for cheese cloth or cotton diapers.

Thu Dec 26 10:34:15 PST 2002

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Seasons Greetings, all!
Does anyone know an online or email source for cheesecloth or cotton diapers?  I actually prefer the diapers to cheese cloth because you don't have to double the material, and, when I could get the stuff locally (here in the wilds of New York City), the cheesecloth was made of polyester!!!
Regards,
Laura
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1. RE: cooked recipe (Dianaim)
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Message: 1
From: "Dianaim"
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Subject: RE: [Herbalist] cooked recipe
Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2002 13:31:03 -0500
Reply-To: herbalist at ansteorra.org

Actually, I added the beeswax after the infusion of the herbs with the oil
and lanolin. My mistake was trying to squeeze out the herb/oil/lanolin ball
with my hands WAY WAY before it cooled.

Dianaim

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[mailto:herbalist-admin at ansteorra.org]On Behalf Of Gaylin Walli
Sent: Wednesday, December 25, 2002 12:26 PM
To: herbalist at ansteorra.org
Subject: Re: [Herbalist] cooked recipe

On Wednesday, December 25, 2002, at 12:18 PM, foxryde wrote:

> Personally, I'd infuse (cook) the herbs first without the beeswax.
> Then
> strain (and cheese cloth works fine with this - just use it to line a
> metal
> mesh style strainer) - you can even squeeze the ball after it has
> cooled a
> bit.

Well you beat me to it! I was just about to comment on this again.
There's a recipe that was submitted to the TI that indicated this was
the way you should approach a balm as well and I disagreed with that
method as well for the same reasons you mentioned. Infusing oil is much
more effective than infusing beeswax, from what I understand of the
chemistry. Beeswax shouldn't be considered a vehicle for the essential
oils but a thickener for them, in my opinion.

Has *anyone* on the list had much success with the beeswax infusion
method? I've not ever in the years I've been making ointments, so I'm
curious to know what other people have found useful about the method.

Iasmin

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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2002 17:59:58 -0700
From: "foxryde"
To: herbalist at ansteorra.org
Subject: [Herbalist] infusing oils
Reply-To: herbalist at ansteorra.org

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That's a first, good Cousin!!! It's nice to have our big Season
over so I have some time to think and comment on this wonderful list.

I find that since I actually make a living making herbal things, my
preparation methods frequently come of differ from the published
versions. I love Penelope Ody's books, but man, her methods stink,
IMHO.

Beeswax is a large complex molecule that tangles easily and is solid
(obviously) at ambient. It is not a good medium for infusions because of
this. The infusing medium needs to be small enough and mobile enough to
penetrate the dried botanicals, lift out (dissolve) the medicinal
components, and then cycle out with them. This is why you don't want to
heat the infused oil too much - some of the medicinal components are
fugitive to heat/light.

This is why I like to melt the beeswax separately, temper it with a small
amount of plain oil, then add it to the warmed infused oils.

There is a lot to think about with these things, it is great to be able to
geek about my chosen field a bit.

Hope everyone had a Wonderful Holiday!! We are going to take some time off
and see some movies and relax before the New Year when we have to get right
back to it!

All the best,
Leonora

At 12:26 PM 12/25/02 -0500, you wrote:

>On Wednesday, December 25, 2002, at 12:18 PM, foxryde wrote:
>
>>Personally, I'd infuse (cook) the herbs first without the beeswax.
>>Then
>>strain (and cheese cloth works fine with this - just use it to line a
>>metal
>>mesh style strainer) - you can even squeeze the ball after it has
>>cooled a
>>bit.
>
>Well you beat me to it! I was just about to comment on this again.
>There's a recipe that was submitted to the TI that indicated this was
>the way you should approach a balm as well and I disagreed with that
>method as well for the same reasons you mentioned. Infusing oil is much
>more effective than infusing beeswax, from what I understand of the
>chemistry. Beeswax shouldn't be considered a vehicle for the essential
>oils but a thickener for them, in my opinion.
>
>Has *anyone* on the list had much success with the beeswax infusion
>method? I've not ever in the years I've been making ointments, so I'm
>curious to know what other people have found useful about the method.
>
>
>Iasmin
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 09:13:07 +0000 (GMT)
From: =?iso-8859-1?q?BJ=20of=20NZ?=
To: herbalist at ansteorra.org
Subject: [Herbalist] Re: Herbalist digest, Vol 1 #273 - 4 msgs
Reply-To: herbalist at ansteorra.org

Hi

I'm glad the bruise butter worked out well
the major difference between most oils and coconut oil
is coconut oil is hard at room Temperature -well in
New Zealand it is??

I love the recipie
and wonder about a bruise Soap?
any ideas
BJ
Lady Bea of Ildhafn

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