Sounds like a Ruadh Noise to me. Madelina -----Original Message----- From: Sluggy [mailto:slugmusk at linuxlegend.com] Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 5:16 PM To: loch-ruadh at ansteorra.org Subject: Re: [Loch-ruadh] Class idea <snip> I have a powertool suitable to such work for which I have had very little practical application. <snip> Sluggy!