At 09:53 PM 12/8/2001 +0000, you wrote: >I tried doing scrimshaw on emu shells, once, and they are VERY hard. >Gwen That is why I said Ostrich shells, I know that Emu shells are hard even though they are very pretty. Tor tried to carve emu shells with his moto- tool and even tried to use dental drills and couldn't dent them. Bicé