[Loch-Ruadh] Re: [Elfsea] My "ideal" Baron & Baroness of Elfsea are:

Richard Threlkeld rjt at acm.org
Tue Jul 22 11:41:43 PDT 2003

As the "asker", I take some issue with this. I was 
consulting with a leader of a satellite group asking 
what are the important issues for her. I think it is 
a fair question and the idea that one should just 
"know" what everyone else considers the critical 
attributes of a leader (in this case the B&B) is 
wrong. You know these things by asking once then 
asking again and again over time. 

As it turned out, I could have listed most of these 
as important considerations for her and Loch Ruadh 
in general. Indeed, most of them are shared by the 
majority of the population. But a few of them were 
in a different order or even not on my expected list.
But it good to ask others for their opinions and advice.

In service,
Caelin on Andrede

---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Spence Mabry" <SMABRY at flash.net>
Reply-To: Barony of Elfsea <elfsea at ansteorra.org>
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 13:16:24 -0500

>The sad thing about all of this is that someone had to 
>ask that question.
>But you are absolutely correct -- anyone even remotely 
>considering sitting on the thrones should have had all 
>of these things in mind and actively working towards 
>that goal.
>I endorse your "ideal' all the way.
>Just so sad someone had to ask ...
>(once a hat-tosser who finally grew up!)
>--- Original Message ---
>From: "Donna Wallis" <mama_mac at airmail.net>
>To: "Dragonsfire Tor" <dragonsfire-
>tor at ansteorra.org>, "Elfsea List" 
><elfsea at ansteorra.org>, "Loch Ruadh List" <loch-
>ruadh at ansteorra.org>, "Threlkeld, Richard" 
><Richard.Threlkeld at usa.xerox.com>
>Subject: [Elfsea] My "ideal" Baron & Baroness of 
>Elfsea are:
>>This is my reply to a private email I received from 
>Caelin. He asked me
>>"What issues are deciding issues for your support in 
>the upcoming
>>polling.?" I have posted my answer to him here 
>because I would be
>>interested in your answers to that question.
>>I am looking at candidates that are and/or will be:
>>**Communicating on all levels!!!!
>>**Level headed thinkers and LISTENERS.
>>**Not afraid to make some unpopular decisions.
>>**Well dressed, well spoken and have presence.
>>**Able to keep private conversations private.
>>**Willing to seek and accept council when needed.
>>**Traveling, representing Elfsea and it's satellite 
>groups in ALL
>>**Actively seeking the views of a wide cross section 
>of the populace and
>>it's satellite groups.
>>**More concerned and proactive with the retention of 
>people instead of
>>just recruiting them.
>>**Actively promoting more openness with the populace. 
>I would be even
>>more impressed if They initiated this at Moot by 
>asking the officers
>>and/or a member of the populace their opinion on 
>spending funds, events,
>>**Asking questions about issues and finances at MOOT, 
>not just business
>>**Reading officer reports and if they are 
>late.....finding out why and
>>asking how they can help.
>>**Consulting with the officers and/or members of the 
>satellite groups
>>BEFORE making Award recommendations to Crown.
>>**Consulting the satellite groups calendars BEFORE 
>adding to the Elfsea
>>calendar.  If conflicts are unavoidable at least 
>speak to the group
>>before said item is published.
>>**Showing an active interest in the satellite groups: 
>Assigning a mentor
>>to the college, attending an activity once in a 
>while, meeting with
>>seneschals and/or officers of those groups.
>>**Acknowledging the satellite groups artisans, 
>fighters and workers.
>>Give their "home" group credit as well as Elfsea.
>>**Actively promoting and supporting Loch Ruadh's 
>endeavor in achieving
>>Shire status...like that is a surprise!!
>>The sad thing is every mover and shaker in the Barony 
>should have been
>>encouraging and/or able to do most of the above 
>without sitting on or
>>even seeking the Baronial Thrones. If they had maybe 
>we wouldn't be in
>>the middle of a hat race now.
>>After the announcement of the "new" B&B unfortunately 
>not everyone will
>>be happy. That's life, get over it!! For the well 
>being of the Barony it
>>is my hope that every candidate that sought the 
>privilege of sitting the
>>Baronial Thrones will be there to help and support 
>the "victors". See
>>what YOU can do to keep Elfsea a healthy and happy 
>>Baroness Dana Mac an Ghabhann
>>Loch Ruadh Seneschal
>>Loch Ruadh REALLY  ROCKS!!!
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