[Loch-Ruadh] devices

[Padraig Ruad O Maolagain]

Hey, Dohmnall,

I think we've found you a deputy and heir apparent.  :-)

> My two copper pieces here...
> 
> <much snippage>
> > > > Not sure if the Maltese cross on the chevron
> > will work - I seem to
> > > > remember a rule against a charge-on-charge
> > situation.  Everything 
> > else
> > > > seems kosher.  I haven't had a chance to
> > conflict-check them - can 
> > you
> > > > do that, Dohmnall?
> > > 
> > > The only rule I've found so far calls for charges
> > on a charge to be 
> > blazoned
> > > after the charge on which they lie. But I remember
> > seeing something 
> > about
> > > certain charges. I'll try to find that as well
> > > 
> > > Domhnall
> > 
> > I know that there are some charges that it works
> > for, and others that 
> > it does not, but I can't remember the rule off-hand,
> > and don't even 
> > remember where I read it.  For that matter, I may
> > just be imagining 
> > it.  Sometimes reality seems very malleable.  :-)
> 
> Last time I checked a chevron was an ordinary, not a
> charge, thus you can place charges upon it without
> problems.
> 
> My device is similar in that it has a bend (an
> ordinary) that has a sword (a charge) on it.
> 
> And Dohmnall is correct, the charge placed upon the
> ordinary is listed after the ordinary, with "on a"
> before the ordinary.  So in the case of the cross and
> chevron, it would be "...on a chevron argent a maltese
> cross sable..."
> 
> In my device's case, the emblazon is supremely
> ackward.  Something like "sable, on a bend azure,
> bordered, a sword, two swords bendwise or"  The or
> descriptor isn't added until the end of all the
> charges that it describes, so often the color of the
> border gets lost when someone tries to translate the
> emblazon to an image.  It's furthur complicated by the
> fact that the two additional swords aren't inside the
> bend, but the customary "between two __" clause
> doesn't work for ordinaries since they must be listed
> first.
> 
> Back to lurking...
> -Bjorn
> 
> 
> 
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