[Loch-Ruadh] devices

[Kylan Ulfgierrson]

A very good point made, we I made it I thought that it was ok, I'd looked 
around and saw lots of devices with this one way or the other...



Ld Kylan Ulfgierrson
In service to the dream...





----Original Message Follows----
My two copper pieces here...

<much snippage>
 > > > Not sure if the Maltese cross on the chevron
 > will work - I seem to
 > > > remember a rule against a charge-on-charge
 > situation.  Everything
 > else
 > > > seems kosher.  I haven't had a chance to
 > conflict-check them - can
 > you
 > > > do that, Dohmnall?
 > >
 > > The only rule I've found so far calls for charges
 > on a charge to be
 > blazoned
 > > after the charge on which they lie. But I remember
 > seeing something
 > about
 > > certain charges. I'll try to find that as well
 > >
 > > Domhnall
 >
 > I know that there are some charges that it works
 > for, and others that
 > it does not, but I can't remember the rule off-hand,
 > and don't even
 > remember where I read it.  For that matter, I may
 > just be imagining
 > it.  Sometimes reality seems very malleable.  :-)

Last time I checked a chevron was an ordinary, not a
charge, thus you can place charges upon it without
problems.

My device is similar in that it has a bend (an
ordinary) that has a sword (a charge) on it.

And Dohmnall is correct, the charge placed upon the
ordinary is listed after the ordinary, with "on a"
before the ordinary.  So in the case of the cross and
chevron, it would be "...on a chevron argent a maltese
cross sable..."

In my device's case, the emblazon is supremely
ackward.  Something like "sable, on a bend azure,
bordered, a sword, two swords bendwise or"  The or
descriptor isn't added until the end of all the
charges that it describes, so often the color of the
border gets lost when someone tries to translate the
emblazon to an image.  It's furthur complicated by the
fact that the two additional swords aren't inside the
bend, but the customary "between two __" clause
doesn't work for ordinaries since they must be listed
first.

Back to lurking...
-Bjorn




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