for a good price... This is made from the same material as my tent, and is about a foot nattower and a foor shorter, but about 3 feet longer.... This is the one the Panther prople cann the Saxton style cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5233381695&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1