Was there a final time to meet in the morning? last I saw was 8 or 9. Should I try for closer to 8 or to 9. Tegwared McAuley(mka Terry Varner) Loch Ruadh Archery Marshal You need only two tools: WD-40 and duct tape. If it doesn't move and it should, use WD-40. If it moves and shouldn't, use the tape