[Loch-Ruadh] Funeral Ship

[Roy Baker]

Good analysis. My thoughts based upon this;

 The ship is only going to be about 4' in length. More than that may cause heat issues at the location.
 That being said, if we use the cardboard grain to our advantage, thos compound curves may actually be easier
 cutting across grain. Of the 3 designs that you had links to, I believe the middle (knarplann) one would lend itself
 as the best for this particular task.
 I do like the idea of possibly using the luan as the rib/keel framework.

 Input? Thoughts?

 ~Trygg


----- Original Message -----
From: Sluggy!
Sent: 08/08/11 02:14 PM
To: Shire of Loch Ruadh, Kingdom of Ansteorra, SCA, Inc.
Subject: Re: [Loch-Ruadh] Funeral Ship

 In my experience (For three years, I was a builder/crewperson for a previous employer's entries in the Cardboard Boat Regatta competition in Arlington http://www.arlingtonvibe.org/2010/07/river-legacy-cardboard-boat-regatta-2010/ I wont say that *I* was responsible for various rule changes, but it's fair to say that our team was, um, part of the problem they have attempted to solve the some of the current rules).... where was I? Oh, yes, in my experience, cardboard can indeed make surprisingly decent boats, especially boats with only one journey to make. Working with cardboard has it's frustrations, though. Probably the biggest is that the corrugations give it a "grain" that makes it tend to crease when you intended for it to bend. Once bent, it will tend to always bend in the same spot. Much of the inherent strength of carboard depends on flat panels and straight bends and seams. A traditional longship design will need long planks with compound curves and cardboard doesn't do that particularly well. It is, however, very hard to argue against it in terms of price and availability, at least in small quantities, and paint can fix a LOT of visual issues. For our purposes, the potential flammability is an asset, as well. Sluggy! ________________________________ From: William Osterheim <wosterheim at yahoo.com> To: "Shire of Loch Ruadh, Kingdom of Ansteorra, SCA, Inc." <loch-ruadh at lists.ansteorra.org> Sent: Sun, August 7, 2011 4:32:32 PM Subject: Re: [Loch-Ruadh] Funeral Ship I wold think it would be easier to use cardboard, with a wooden keel and framework. It is a lot more flexable. Polydore ________________________________ From: Roy Baker <palehorse at mail.com> To: "Shire of Loch Ruadh, Kingdom of Ansteorra, SCA, Inc." <loch-ruadh at lists.ansteorra.org> Sent: Sunday, August 7, 2011 5:42 AM Subject: Re: [Loch-Ruadh] Funeral Ship OK,..I've been going over these & have a question. Would it be easier to use cardboard or the 1/8 luan plywood? Trygg ----- Original Message ----- From: Sluggy! Sent: 07/11/11 10:59 PM To: Shire of Loch Ruadh, Kingdom of Ansteorra, SCA, Inc. Subject: Re: [Loch-Ruadh] Funeral Ship I do indeed have 1/8" luan... A full 4x8 sheet *plus* the partial sheet. It is all, of course, to gladly be given for this project, as is any other skill, tool or love I hold steward over. Sluggy! ----- Original Message ---- From: Sluggy! <sluggy9912 at swbell.net> To: "Shire of Loch Ruadh, Kingdom of Ansteorra, SCA, Inc." <loch-ruadh at lists.ansteorra.org> Sent: Sun, July 10, 2011 11:53:20 PM Subject: Re: [Loch-Ruadh] Funeral Ship I have 1/8" luan plywood, but I need to see how much I have... I think it's around a 4x4 sheet, not really square, but about that much. Will let ya know... Sluggy! ----- Original Message ---- From: William Osterheim <wosterheim at yahoo.com> To: "Shire of Loch Ruadh, Kingdom of Ansteorra, SCA, Inc." <loch-ruadh at lists.ansteorra.org> Sent: Sat, July 9, 2011 1:41:23 AM Subject: Re: [Loch-Ruadh] Funeral Ship Actual plans, no... but if memory is right, I think the 8 foot one Hakon led us in building 15 years ago used 4" strips of 1/4" plywood for the sides, so I would think abotu 2 or 2.5 inch side strips of 1/8" luan plywood would work. If you get them too wide, you cannot bend them around correctly. Probably on that size, Get some 1" stock to make the keel and bow and stern out of. It will need to be wider than you might think to start it up for the end curves. Polydore ________________________________ From: Roy Baker <palehorse at mail.com> To: loch-ruadh at lists.ansteorra.org Sent: Fri, July 8, 2011 11:13:41 PM Subject: [Loch-Ruadh] Funeral Ship Will be building a small scale viking funeral ship in honor of my departed brother Hakon. Does anyone have the plans or access to one for this project? If so, please contact me ASAP. This will be a very small build (No more that 3-4 ft in length) due to the location of the ceremony. 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