[Namron] Blow calling

scott melton darius67 at sbcglobal.net
Wed Sep 1 21:49:21 PDT 2004


I could not have said it better
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "G. Gibeson" <gurhal at hotmail.com>
To: <namron at ansteorra.org>
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 5:30 PM
Subject: [Namron] Blow calling


> Hatur,
>
> As you know we agree in many ways on this subject, and we have talked
about
> it many times in the past, so this is nothing new between us.
>
> We all seem to agree calibration is very important even if you have to
stop
> the fight to discuss it like you said.  An open discusion between the
> fighters should always be the first step, and should *not* lead to name
> calling.
>
> I do not think the issue is pain tolerance or armour padding, though, I
> think it is more of a training issue.
>
> Halldor mentioned earlier the ideal of "Hitting hard and calling Light".
>
> This is what I think to be the intent behind those words "Hit hard enough
> the blow is noticable by your opponents, and to Call blows good even when
> they are lighter than what you would normally throw."
>
> I strongly agree with Halldor on this point, calling a blow is a conscious
> choice to either call a blow good or not.  If everyone made an effort to
> call blows on the light side of the range, the result would be cleaner
more
> skilled fighting.
>
> Unfortunatly, that phrase seems to be taken a bit too litterally.  The
> trends we have observed are more along the lines of "Call everything light
> reguardless of impact, and hit your opponent as hard as you can because he
> is calling everything light too."
>
> Where I disagree is on how to handle the situation.  This attitude of "Hit
> them harder until they can feel it", is dangerous.  If this is combined
with
> the attitude of "If hitting them really hard does not work, hit them
really
> hard in a softer area" it is very dangerous.
>
> It could get some one badly injured and possably killed if struck with a
> cranked up blow in a vulnerable area like the throat, neck or along the
> spine, even if all the proper equipment is in place.
> Accidents after all, do happen.
>
>
> The fighting standards assume that all fighters are to be wearing a
hauberk
> over a
> padded gambeson, with boiled leather arm and leg defenses and an
open-faced
> iron helm with a nasal.  It should also be noted, that we are attempting
to
> re-enact combat by simulating real weapons.
>
> Each fighter is responsable for measuring all incoming blows against this
> standard, reguardless of the armour they are actually wearing.  Padding
> should not be an issue in calling the blow.  Pain or the lack of pain
should
> not be an issue in calling the blow.
>
> To quote my wife, Charlie, "It is not a tough-man competition, its a game
of
> skill and precision".
>
> After all, the goal is not to hurt eachother, is it?
>
>
> Gavin
>
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: terry wasson <haturearn at yahoo.com>
> Reply-To: Barony of Namron <namron at ansteorra.org>
> To: namron at ansteorra.org
> Subject: [Namron] Rhino hides
> Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 15:14:23 -0700 (PDT)
>
>   Hey Gavin
>   As one who has fought in Ansteorra and 2 other
> kingdoms, I find most people who rhino to be of
> someone with a higher tolerence for pain.
>   I know because if I don't think about the blows and
> the level of them I will not call them, Yes a rhino
> not in hide but with a high pain tolerance.
>   Also as Inmon taught me if the blow is in there and
> clean call it,if not check with you opponent by
> calibration for the types oh hitting needed. Evan if
> you need to stop the fight for calibration. the same
> if he is hitting to hard.
>   If they still don't call it hit them harder till they
> call it or you may need to yield the Field to them as
> their armour is to well padded.
>   If over padding in a certain area is the problem hit
> them with the same force in a lightly padded area.
>   But above all else do not call them a rhino hide on
> the field as they be become embarrassed.
>   I have the arms to make some one feel the difference
> and if need be I can fight till I make them fill it.
>   But above all else talk to one another about the
> types of force need to kill you.
>   Hatur
>
> =====
>
>
>
>
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