[Namron] Meeting places and other things

Jennene mooharpist at cox.net
Mon Feb 27 15:10:07 PST 2006

On Feb 27, 2006, at 12:37 PM, Grimmie wrote:

> We started using the VFW in McAlester and they were nice and let us  
> have it free.
> Grimmie

To Grimmie-

Could you please follow up and see if this is a viable option for us?

To the list-

I have tried to sit on my hands and say nothing as this thread  
continues but alas, I cannot. I wish people would keep in mind that  
this is a volunteer organization. You get back what you invest. Is it  
too much to ask that people put a little effort and do a little  
investigation on their suggestions? I'm getting rather exasperated  
with those who make suggestions (that may or may not work), then  
expect others to run ragged trying to do the actual foot work. THEN  
these people complain that their suggestions are not being handled  
well. There's an old saying "If you want something done right. do it  

We were spoiled rotton by Buzz. (which we did buy food... but that's  
another issue) Until they re-open, if they reopen, we have to deal  
with finding a place to meet. Yes, we have uncertain about the place  
we are meeting at present (although it has been at the same place for  
a few months now). That is because no matter where we think about  
meeting there is always those who complain that is it not what they  
think is ideal. (Have any of the complainers actually tried to help  
to find a place? - and I mean do some of the footwork- not just talk)  
Oh, and for clarification- Thomas penciled us in a Denny's as an  
option (in case there were objections to paying $40 to meet at  
Andrews. If he had waited then that option would have been taken by  
another group and there aren't that many free meeting places in  
Norman) We need to decide what we can live with. (no solution is  
going to be perfect)

What I am curious about is: Has anyone actually contacted our  
Seneschal directly or one on one to lodge complaints on how this  
problem is being handled? Or is it easier to go straight to the  
internet list to safely grandstand? Thomas does have a cell with lots  
of minutes and free long distance.  Call him. (If you can't afford  
the long distance, place a short call then he will call you back on  
his phone. A minute of long distance is not THAT expensive)

As for the dead horse issue of the populas that was cancelled because  
of weather that some keep harping on, I want to say this: Thomas did  
apologize for getting the information out late but the weather did  
deteriorate quickly I was out in it with a 4WD SUV and it was  
dangerous. I grew up in the north and know how to drive on ice and  
snow (and BTW Thomas is a degreed  Meteorologist and therefor maybe  
able to make some weather decisions.) Oh and Pooky, who is an officer  
and gotta love him WAS there out in the freeze, letting people know.  
Could we please let that horse die? Oh BTW,  that day Thomas was also  
having to deal with a very stressed and worried wife who was  
concerned because one of her close friends was having a angiogram  
(and possible open heart surgery) that day. Seneschals have real life  
stresses too.

Yes I am biased. I have watched my husband working his tail off for  
this Barony and worry himself sick over it's welfare. I, for one am  
getting rather tired of the  "Armchair seneschals, armchair baron/ 
esses and armchair .... (pick the office or job of your choice).  I  
am getting tired of people making all sorts of suggestions (some of  
them are good and need to be followed up on) then disappearing into a  
black hole only to emerge months later to complain that their  
suggestions aren't being utilized to their satisfaction. (I have  
always found it amazing how many people hold others to standards that  
they themselves cannot maintain) Deeds are needed more then words.

The commitment to being a officer/landed is large.  Please keep in  
mind that these people are our friends and loved ones.  They are real  
people who do try to do their best  and ARE HUMAN. I know this easy  
to forget when you are sitting behind a computer. They are NOT a  
convenient whipping boy/girl or other target  when they fall short of  
unreasonable expectations or when others are just having a bad day.  
If you don't like they way something is going why not contact that  
person directly and offer to help share the load?

We make the Barony what it is. It can either be a group of people  
working together or a group of whiners, complainers. I, for one, much  
prefer the first option.

HL Anya Elizabeth Gordon Lamont
Jennene Stanley
"Vanity working on a weak mind
produces every sort of mischief"
						-Jane Austen
mooharpist at cox.net		www.mooharpist.net

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