[Namron] Official or not (it's merely pining for the fjords)
Radei Drchevich
radei at moscowmail.com
Fri Feb 24 17:34:12 PST 2006
OK ADDRESS: 14 E-MAILS TO OFFICERS IN 4 MONTHS WITHOUT SO MUCH AS A
SINGLE RESPONSE. And I know the Senechal and I are not on the best of
terms, But I had to ask for the location 5 hours before the last
meeting. nothing had been said. weather called for freezing rain and
nothing had been said. I ended up not being able to attend because we
had freezing rain here 85 miles from Norman. And if you note, I stated I
would be willing to contribute to the cost of the room, I think most
would rather than have to go to a restaurant and feel oblagated to order
food.
Even the Herald doesn't answer e-mails. so why post e-mail addresses at
all??
joy
radei
----- Original Message -----
From: muriel at entelesoft.com
To: "'Barony of Namron'"
Subject: RE: [Namron] Official or not (it's merely pining for the
fjords)
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 18:12:09 -0600
Sorry to help beat the dead horse, but we each get a swing now and then.
Let's answer each question in the last post separately... Q. If the
meeting place is subject to change, shouldn't that information go out
ahead of time? A. Well, DUH. Once we HAVE a place, the information will
go out. In the Plume, on the website, on the list, word-of-mouth, etc.
Our Seneschal has been working for MONTHS to get a new site. As all the
people more experienced than I have posted here, this is much more
difficult than you might think. My advice: If you weigh the options and
don't find it worth your time to come if finding the meeting will be a
hassle, don't come to populace until we have a stable meeting place.
This will solve your current problem. Q. How are newcomers supposed to
find a group that does not meet in the same place everytime, and the
meetingplace isn't known to members until the last minute, if they missed
the previous meeting? A. Again, DUH. They CAN'T. Unfortunately, if we
dont HAVE a place to meet, we can't very well tell them to meet us
there. Secondly, I'm sure everyone would love to meet the same place
every time. Circumstances and expense prevent us. We aren't galavanting
all over town changing the meeting place at the last second for every
meeting. Q. When a meeting is cancelled due to snow, shouldn't an
officer be present at site to inform those that do not have instant
access to the information of cancellation? A. Pooky IS an officer. He
also volunteered for that duty. Secondly, it is rather, er, unscientific
to assume that because a new Seneschal handled a novel situation a
certain way that it will happen exactly like that every time, in every
situation, for the rest of eternity. The "it" that you seem to refer to
includes one instance, that of that one time we cancelled a meeting.
Everyone on this list knows we're trying to find a new place for populace
because the last place upped their price. They also know that we are
having a hard time finding a new place. It is up to you to decide what
is best for you in light of these circumstances. No one can hand out
information that does not yet exist. We cannot meet at a place that has
not been found. There is no real point to debating the issues here as the
people directly involved in the process are too busy with the process to
read all our crap and answer every person's list posts individually.
That's not to say that you can't debate on the list to your heart's
content, but know that most of the people responding (including me)
aren't close enough to the action to describe everything they've already
considered or where they're at.
-----Original Message-----
From: namron-bounces+muriel=entelesoft.com at ansteorra.org
[mailto:namron-bounces+muriel=entelesoft.com at ansteorra.org]On Behalf
Of Radei Drchevich
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 12:23 PM
To: donnchadh at cornelius.norman.ok.us; Barony of Namron
Subject: Re: [Namron] Official or not...........
If meeting place is subject to chamge, shouldn't that information go
out ahead of time?
How are newcomers suppost to find a group that does not meet in the
same place everytime, and the meetingplace isn't known to members
until the last minute, if they missed the previous meeting?
"Penciled in at Denny's", but the website still says Andrews Park.
When a meeting is cancelled due to snow, shouldn't an officer be
present at site to inform those that do not have instant access to
the information of Cancellation? Did not happen at the dec meeting
that was cancelled. If Pookie had not been there at least 5 cars of
people that I saw ,in the 5 minutes I waited for answer, would not
have known the meeting was cancelled.
I have to disagree. I do not believe it has been handled well.
information is not being freely exchanged unless you live within a
few miles of the meeting site<which many of us DO NOT>.
joy
radei
----- Original Message -----
From: Donnchadh
To: "Barony of Namron"
Subject: Re: [Namron] Official or not...........
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 13:24:50 -0600
I don't think anyone is saying we shouldn't use the list to pass on
information. Only that the official discussion of issues that affect the
Barony, such as where to have future meetings, would be at populace
meeting. It doesn't make sense to have a discussion at populace meeting
and have everyone give their reasoning and the pros and cons of each
decision, only to turn around and have that exact same discussion on the
list. If you have strong feelings on the matter at hand and you can't
make it to that populace meeting, then I can only suggest asking someone
else to convey your message for you, or contact the Seneschal ahead of
time. Believe me; I understand not being able to make it to populace
meeting. For a long time, my work had me out of the state for months at
a time, and I'm sure decisions were made in the Barony when I had no
chance to give my input.
Again, no one is against spreading information via the list. And I think
our Seneschal has done a very good job with that considering how quickly
the weather can change around here. We just don't want to have to
duplicate every discussion and repeat the same considerations over and
over.
Donnchadh
---------- Original Message -----------
From: "Radei Drchevich" <radei at moscowmail.com>
To: "Barony of Namron" <namron at ansteorra.org>
Sent: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 10:02:01 -0500
Subject: Re: [Namron] Official or not...........
> Unofficial or not. Courtesy demands a simple response. I have been
officer in many groups of this nature. Communication is Communication.
It A Phone can previde Official information, so can an e-mail.
>
> And what about those of us 2 hours out? How do I find out official
information if the weather or my health prevent me from makeing the 170
miles drive for a 2 hour populas meeting?? AM I support to call long
distance by telephone, speak to an answering machine and still not get an
answer??
>
> Inquiring minds want to know.
>
> joy
> radei
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: aethelstan at cox.net
> > To: "Barony of Namron" <namron at ansteorra.org>
> > Subject: [Namron] Official or not...........
> > Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 19:42:32 -0500
> >
> >
> > Your absolutly correct my Lady,
> > We shouldn't use this forum for official communications.
> > However, this list becomes very useful for the passing of polite
information.
> > Please everyone, let's not get our feathers ruffeled.
> >
> > As long as I have been playing in this society, there has *always*
> > been the everpresent issue of meeting places.
> > Our beloved Senechal (may he rule long and well) is trying his ever
> > best to deal with the current situation. All the help you can give
> > him would be greatly appreciated. ie. call around yourselves and
> > find out a bit of info. that you can then pass on to him. *service
> > announcemt finished*
> >
> > As for you Ms. Advocate, shame on you (swat nose with feathers),
> > you of all folks should know better than to try and stir up a
> > situation under the guises of taking an opposite position for the
> > sake of better understanding.
> > Now go watch ten hours of monty python for pennance.
> >
> > in service,
> > Master Aethelstan
> > residant junior underflunky
> >
> >
> > > This is sooo funny, Since this is an Unofficial forum, why be
> > > distributing any "official" information on the list anyway? call
> > > me the devils advocate, but does that mean all event info is not
> > > official if it distributed on the list? Does that mean any info
> > > on meetings is not official if it distributed on the list?? does
> > > that mean we should preface our posts with the disclaimer of this
> > > is not an official announcement of..... Blah Blah Blah....
> > > Ducking for cover -
> > > Lady Susannah Blackthorne
> > >
> > >
> > >
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