[Namron] Not Offended

scott melton darius67 at sbcglobal.net
Tue Sep 19 15:05:07 PDT 2006


yeaaaa    monday night football....is it monday yet....is it monday yet
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Matthias the Brewer" <matthiasthebrewer at cox.net>
To: "'Barony of Namron Mailing List'" <namron at ansteorra.org>
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 12:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Namron] Not Offended


> All (and especially Caius),
>
> Knowing Sami to be generally sweet and inoffensive, I'm sure there is
> nothing rude or offensive intended.  I started to question her creation of 
> a
> "estrogen-intensive and testosterone-free zone".  But any of us who are 
> (or
> have been) married, I think this is something that no self-respecting male
> wants to be involved.  In college, we would find these "zones" and conduct 
> a
> panty raid (oh those WERE the days) or bomb it with water balloons (and 
> once
> even a dead skunk, and we DID pay for that event).
>
> But remember this, if women can have exclusively female events, they can't
> complain when we have exclusively MALE events.  And this DOES coincide 
> with
> the start of Monday Night Football.
>
> Matthias the Opportunistic
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: namron-bounces at ansteorra.org [mailto:namron-bounces at ansteorra.org] 
> On
> Behalf Of Craig Pharaoh
> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 9:27 AM
> To: namron at ansteorra.org
> Subject: Re: [Namron] Not Offended
>
> Am I offended?  Not really.  I know that certain customs and manners on 
> the
> internet are not well known to all, which is why I am not surprised to see
> my correspondence repeated in another newsgroup, without any personal
> notification.  Yes it is rude, but it is not as rude as shutting people 
> out
> of any gathering due to their race, religion, national origin, gender,
> limitations or age.
>
> I would like to know if the Women's Only Sewing being announced on the
> Official Namron Newsgroup is an SCA function of the new Maysville group. 
> If
>
> it is, then there is a policy on Accessibility set forth in Corporate 
> Policy
>
> Chapter XIII.  If it is a private something or other, should it be 
> promoted
> and announced on the official site?
>
> It is a matter of diversity.  Yes, I can remember when the SCA didn't have
> all these rules and policies.  Maybe it was better, maybe not.  Times
> change, Rules change.  Membership in the SCA and using the SCA, Inc. as 
> 'our
>
> organization' means that we will abide by the rules of the SCA, Inc.
>
> There is a difference between having seperate but similar facilities, or
> facilities that are limited in use for certain groups, at certain times, 
> but
>
> available for everyone at some time, and having a function that is limited
> to only certain federally defined groups.
>
> I remember when we had shower facilities at events that were male only at
> certain times, female only at certain times and coed at certain times. 
> But
>
> everyone could shower, eventually.
>
> Holding a SCA function at a place inaccessable to wheelchairs is against 
> the
>
> rules, which makes it hard to have  some meetings at some people's homes.
> Holding an SCA event at a place that limits patrons to only 21 years old 
> or
> over is also against the rules, no matter how fun it could be.  Holding an
> arts and crafts function in a men's only area would probably raise many
> notes of anger from our female members.
>
> It all comes down to what is an SCA function and the modern age of the
> internet.  If you use an SCA information organ to publicize your 'meeting 
> or
>
> party' does it then fall under the same rules as if you published your
> meeting in the hardcopy newsletter?  Either way, do you have a
> responsibility to the 'spirit' of the SCA Corporate policy not to hold
> functions connected to the SCA, , in a manner that does not restrict 
> access,
>
> on basis of disability, race, religion, gender, age or national origin?
>
> ............................................................................
> ......................
>
> No I don't worry about people from Skorragardr traveling to any other 
> place,
>
> it is the best way to learn about the SCA, interaction with other
> established SCA groups and members.  The more you get out an interact with
> other SCAdians, the more you will learn.  Sometimes I am amused by 
> newcomers
>
> classes being taught by newcomers, I don't really understand that.  It's
> like all the students get together and ignore the teachers, (yes, Namron 
> has
>
> so many great teachers who can and do happily teach newcomers, if they 
> will
> but ask.)
>
> It often amuses me to see people who admit to having very little knowledge
> about the rules, customs and traditions of the SCA make public posts, but
> then request that any corrections for their possibly incorrect information
> that they passed out to everyone be made in private.  Public, broadband
> width, group emails should be answered publically, especially if there is
> something being said that is against official group policy.  Of course, if
> people must take messages from one group and send to another without
> notifying the original poster, just so you can prove the poster is  wrong 
> or
>
> something,  that is also not according to the unwritten  rules of e-lists,
> but sooner or later, just like gossip, it will come back to the creator.
> Sometimes people say I am to forthright when I answer various posts, but I
> am not known for passsing around their posts on other lists just to try 
> and
> make myself look good.
>
> Caius Fabius
> sometimes stressed, rarely offended
>
>
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