[Namron] Test your rapier armor at yule
Lord Orlando Di Gilead
orlando at agilejedi.com
Sat Dec 5 07:14:51 PST 2009
I'll have the drop tester with me at yule for those who would like to
test fabric for rapier armor.
Orlando
On 12/4/09, Lord Orlando Di Gilead <orlando at agilejedi.com> wrote:
> For fun...we could armor a few people up!
>
> Orlando
>
> On 12/4/09, Doug Copley <doug.copley at gmail.com> wrote:
>> HE Donnchadh,
>>
>> For this I was only speaking of CA in a target archery environment, no
>> shooting of people would be involved. Len was concerned that if he came
>> to the event that he would not get to shoot much because it would mostly
>> be CA and he does Target Archery. Most of the shooting at this event
>> will be TA with only the possibility of some CA in the Royal Huntsman
>> tourney.
>>
>> At this time we do not know if there will be any CA, in a target archery
>> setting, or if it will all be Target Archery. We will not know for sure
>> until Saturday afternoon at the tourney when they actually let us know.
>>
>> Thanks for the clarification!
>>
>> YIS,
>> Vincenti
>>
>> Donnchadh Beag mac Griogair wrote:
>>> Vincenti,
>>>
>>> When you say Combat Archery (CA), are you talking about shooting at
>>> other people, or just target archery using CA equipment. I don't
>>> believe I've ever seen full CA (shooting at other people) at Royal
>>> Huntsman. It's always been target archery, with or without CA
>>> equipment. There's a big difference since full CA requires full armor
>>> and that people be authorized for CA. Target archery with CA equipment
>>> does not require authorization and it only requires head and hand
>>> protection.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Donnchadh
>>>
>>> Doug Copley wrote:
>>>> There will be equipment inspection first thing in the morning. Then
>>>> they will start shooting for the Archery Toy Tournament and there will
>>>> be a Thrown Weapons (Knife, Axe, & Spear) Toy Tournament. These
>>>> activities will help get everyone warmed up and going so that after
>>>> lunch everyone will be limbered up and ready for the Royal Huntsman
>>>> Tournament. The only Combat Archery that may happen is that there is a
>>>> possibility of there being a final type round in the Royal Huntsman.
>>>> We will not know if there will be any CA until Saturday Afternoon.
>>>> There will definitely be Target Archery involved. Those not wishing to
>>>> shoot CA will be allowed to bow out at that point of the tournament,
>>>> along with those that are not able to commit to the amount of travel
>>>> that goes with the title of Royal Huntsman.
>>>>
>>>> After all the events are done there is a feast that is being prepared
>>>> that should be great!!!
>>>>
>>>> YIS,
>>>> Vincenti
>>>>
>>>> Len Billett wrote:
>>>>> so just to clarify.. i need some info on the yule revel...
>>>>> besides the huntsman tourney what other archery events or archery
>>>>> related things are there going to be to do since all i will be
>>>>> bringing is my bow? will there be any royal rounds or a practice
>>>>> field?
>>>>> it sounds like this event is geared mainly for fighers and ca..
>>>>> is there going to be a feast later on?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> /Len Billett/
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>> Today's Topics:
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>>>>> 1. Re: Stolen Trailer (Lawrence)
>>>>> 2. Re: Stolen Trailer (David Reynolds )
>>>>> 3. Re: Wiesenfeuer Yule Revel - Sat. Dec 5th (toy tourney lists)
>>>>> (Shanna Ward)
>>>>> 4. Re: Wiesenfeuer Yule Revel - Sat. Dec 5th (toy tourney lists)
>>>>> (McCuan John)
>>>>> 5. Populace Meeting notes, 01 Dec 09 (William Herron)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 1
>>>>> Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 15:42:05 -0600
>>>>> From: "Lawrence" <huntsmanlance at cox.net
>>>>> <mailto:huntsmanlance at cox.net>>
>>>>> To: "'Barony of Namron Mailing List'" <namron at lists.ansteorra.org
>>>>> <mailto:namron at lists.ansteorra.org>>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Namron] Stolen Trailer
>>>>> Message-ID: <1E6DD64C6DC94825AFD866CBD594168F at SP>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>>>
>>>>> That is just sad, pardon me but people just suck....
>>>>>
>>>>> Is everything covered by insurance....not that it would replace the
>>>>> memories. If not is there something we can do? Like fundraisers or
>>>>> such?
>>>>>
>>>>> _____
>>>>> From: namron-bounces+huntsmanlance=cox.net at lists.ansteorra.org
>>>>> <mailto:cox.net at lists.ansteorra.org>
>>>>> [mailto:namron-bounces+huntsmanlance=cox.net at lists.ansteorra.org
>>>>> <mailto:cox.net at lists.ansteorra.org>] On Behalf
>>>>> Of Donnchadh Beag mac Griogair
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 11:23 AM
>>>>> To: Barony of Namron Mailing List; Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc.;
>>>>> Northern Region of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc.; Wiesenfeuer at yahoogroups.com
>>>>> <mailto:Wiesenfeuer at yahoogroups.com>;
>>>>> Canton of Skorragardr; mooneschadowe at yahoogroups.com
>>>>> <mailto:mooneschadowe at yahoogroups.com>; The Barony of
>>>>> Northkeep; barony-eldern_hills
>>>>> Subject: [Namron] Stolen Trailer
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Good Friends,
>>>>>
>>>>> I regret to inform you that last night my personal trailer was stolen
>>>>> from
>>>>> my driveway with a number of Kingdom, Baronial and personal items
>>>>> inside. I
>>>>> have already filed a police report with the Oklahoma City Police.
>>>>> Last
>>>>> night I removed His Majesties' throne, the banner box, feast gear
>>>>> box, and
>>>>> one of the kneeling pillows to pass on for the trip down to Stargate,
>>>>> so
>>>>> those items are safe. I went out this morning to retrieve something
>>>>> from
>>>>> the trailer and it was gone. I have called anyone I could think of
>>>>> who
>>>>> might have picked up the trailer for this weekend's event, but no one
>>>>> has
>>>>> it. I then called the police to report the crime and drove around my
>>>>> neighborhood looking for the trailer. The trailer is a white 5x8 box
>>>>> trailer with a red SCA sticker on the upper left corner of the door.
>>>>> I have
>>>>> attached a list of what I remember being in the trailer. If anyone
>>>>> sees the
>>>>> trailer or any of these items for sale online or in a pawn shop,
>>>>> please
>>>>> contact me immediately. With luck, we may be able to recover at
>>>>> least some
>>>>> of the items.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Kingdom Kingdom Pavilion Her Throne Kneeling Pillow Black box
>>>>> of largess Banner (Not main banner box) Namron Baronial
>>>>> Pavilion Hat box with 3 coronets Feast gear box with feast gear
>>>>> Banners Personal Trailer Award Regalia Heavy Armor
>>>>> Rapier Armor 2 Rapiers, Dagger, Buckler Combat Crossbow and
>>>>> bolts Bed w/ mattress Bedding Camping gear Heater Chairs
>>>>> In Service,
>>>>> Baron Donnchadh
>>>>> MKA Shawn Cornelius
>>>>> 3101 SW 124th St.
>>>>> Oklahoma City, OK 73170
>>>>> 405-226-7675
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 2
>>>>> Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 21:50:44 +0000
>>>>> From: "David Reynolds " <oldblue_ at hotmail.com
>>>>> <mailto:oldblue_ at hotmail.com>>
>>>>> To: "Lawrence " <huntsmanlance at cox.net
>>>>> <mailto:huntsmanlance at cox.net>>, "namron at lists.ansteorra.org
>>>>> <mailto:namron at lists.ansteorra.org> "
>>>>> <namron at lists.ansteorra.org <mailto:namron at lists.ansteorra.org>>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Namron] Stolen Trailer
>>>>> Message-ID: <COL115-DS246F34D776F5EDC0169021E9940 at phx.gbl
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>>>>> Fortunately, many of the items will not be needed until after the
>>>>> first of the year. We should try to get artisans from around the
>>>>> kingdom to see how quickly we can replace items. If they provide
>>>>> invoices insurance should be able to reimburse. Also, assuming it is
>>>>> covered by insurance, we should probably order new pavilions promptly.
>>>>> Sent on the Sprint? Now Network from my BlackBerry?
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Lawrence <huntsmanlance at cox.net <mailto:huntsmanlance at cox.net>>
>>>>> Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 21:42:05
>>>>> To: <namron at lists.ansteorra.org <mailto:namron at lists.ansteorra.org>>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Namron] Stolen Trailer
>>>>>
>>>>> That is just sad, pardon me but people just suck....
>>>>> ?
>>>>> Is everything covered by insurance....not that it would replace the
>>>>> memories. If not is there something we can do? Like fundraisers or
>>>>> such?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----------------
>>>>> From: namron-bounces+huntsmanlance=cox.net at lists.ansteorra.org
>>>>> <mailto:cox.net at lists.ansteorra.org>
>>>>> [mailto:namron-bounces+huntsmanlance=cox.net at lists.ansteorra.org
>>>>> <mailto:cox.net at lists.ansteorra.org>] On Behalf Of Donnchadh Beag mac
>>>>> Griogair
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 11:23 AM
>>>>> To: Barony of Namron Mailing List; Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc.;
>>>>> Northern Region of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc.; Wiesenfeuer at yahoogroups.com
>>>>> <mailto:Wiesenfeuer at yahoogroups.com>; Canton of Skorragardr;
>>>>> mooneschadowe at yahoogroups.com <mailto:mooneschadowe at yahoogroups.com>;
>>>>> The Barony of Northkeep; barony-eldern_hills
>>>>> Subject: [Namron] Stolen Trailer
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Good Friends,
>>>>>
>>>>> I regret to inform you that last night my personal trailer was stolen
>>>>> from my driveway with a number of Kingdom, Baronial and personal
>>>>> items inside.? I have already filed a police report with the Oklahoma
>>>>> City Police.? Last night I removed His Majesties' throne, the banner
>>>>> box, feast gear box, and one of the kneeling pillows to pass on for
>>>>> the trip down to Stargate, so those items are safe.? I went out this
>>>>> morning to retrieve something from the trailer and it was gone.? I
>>>>> have called anyone I could think of who might have picked up the
>>>>> trailer for this weekend's event, but no one has it.? I then called
>>>>> the police to report the crime and drove around my neighborhood
>>>>> looking for the trailer.? The trailer is a white 5x8 box trailer with
>>>>> a red SCA sticker on the upper left corner of the door.? I have
>>>>> attached a list of what I remember being in the trailer.? If anyone
>>>>> sees the trailer or any of these items for sale online or in a pawn
>>>>> shop, please contact me immediately.? With lu
>>>>> ck, we may be able to recover at least some of the items.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Kingdom
>>>>> Kingdom Pavilion
>>>>> Her Throne
>>>>> Kneeling Pillow
>>>>> Black box of largess
>>>>> Banner (Not main banner box)
>>>>> ?
>>>>> Namron
>>>>> Baronial Pavilion
>>>>> Hat box with 3 coronets
>>>>> Feast gear box with feast gear
>>>>> Banners
>>>>> ?
>>>>> Personal
>>>>> Trailer
>>>>> Award Regalia
>>>>> Heavy Armor
>>>>> Rapier Armor
>>>>> 2 Rapiers, Dagger, Buckler
>>>>> Combat Crossbow and bolts
>>>>> Bed w/ mattress
>>>>> Bedding
>>>>> Camping gear
>>>>> Heater
>>>>> Chairs
>>>>>
>>>>> In Service,
>>>>> Baron Donnchadh
>>>>> MKA Shawn Cornelius
>>>>> 3101 SW 124th St.
>>>>> Oklahoma City, OK? 73170
>>>>> 405-226-7675
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 3
>>>>> Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 15:47:34 -0800 (PST)
>>>>> From: Shanna Ward <camberbabe at sbcglobal.net
>>>>> <mailto:camberbabe at sbcglobal.net>>
>>>>> To: Northern List <northern at lists.ansteorra.org
>>>>> <mailto:northern at lists.ansteorra.org>>
>>>>> Cc: Wiesenfeuer <Wiesenfeuer at yahoogroups.com
>>>>> <mailto:Wiesenfeuer at yahoogroups.com>>, Mooneschadowe
>>>>> <mooneschadowe at yahoogroups.com
>>>>> <mailto:mooneschadowe at yahoogroups.com>>, Namrom
>>>>> <namron at lists.ansteorra.org <mailto:namron at lists.ansteorra.org>>,
>>>>> Northkeep <northkeep at lists.ansteorra.org
>>>>> <mailto:northkeep at lists.ansteorra.org>>, Eldern Hills
>>>>> <Barony-Eldern_Hills at yahoogroups.com
>>>>> <mailto:Barony-Eldern_Hills at yahoogroups.com>>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Namron] Wiesenfeuer Yule Revel - Sat. Dec 5th (toy
>>>>> tourney lists)
>>>>> Message-ID: <472955.42329.qm at web82706.mail.mud.yahoo.com
>>>>> <mailto:472955.42329.qm at web82706.mail.mud.yahoo.com>>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>>>
>>>>> Are the lists being run at the same time?
>>>>> Kristoff
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> * * * * *
>>>>>
>>>>> Greetings,
>>>>> No, the Toy Tourney lists are not being run simultaneously. If the
>>>>> Baroness' wish it though and the list mistress?is capable (which I'm
>>>>> sure she is) then they could be.?However, there are some that choose
>>>>> to fight both styles so......anyway.? Also, it was pointed out there
>>>>> is?Toy Tourney Archery & Thrown Weapons.? YAY!? I have shamefully
>>>>> forgotten to post about those.?They will most likely begin after
>>>>> the?Royal Huntsman shoot.? Don't forget your toys!
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for asking,
>>>>> Ly Shanna
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>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 4
>>>>> Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 16:54:35 -0800 (PST)
>>>>> From: McCuan John <bigjohnbear2001 at yahoo.com
>>>>> <mailto:bigjohnbear2001 at yahoo.com>>
>>>>> To: Barony of Namron Mailing List <namron at lists.ansteorra.org
>>>>> <mailto:namron at lists.ansteorra.org>>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Namron] Wiesenfeuer Yule Revel - Sat. Dec 5th (toy
>>>>> tourney lists)
>>>>> Message-ID: <776195.6944.qm at web52604.mail.re2.yahoo.com
>>>>> <mailto:776195.6944.qm at web52604.mail.re2.yahoo.com>>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>>>>
>>>>> Shanna Ward please call me ASAP
>>>>>
>>>>> Ian 681-0127
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 5
>>>>> Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 20:30:10 -0600
>>>>> From: William Herron <fitzbubba at gmail.com
>>>>> <mailto:fitzbubba at gmail.com>>
>>>>> To: Barony of Namron Mailing List <namron at lists.ansteorra.org
>>>>> <mailto:namron at lists.ansteorra.org>>,
>>>>> Skorragardr Mailing List on Yahoo on Yahoo
>>>>> <SkorragardrVirtualSkald at yahoogroups.com
>>>>> <mailto:SkorragardrVirtualSkald at yahoogroups.com>>
>>>>> Subject: [Namron] Populace Meeting notes, 01 Dec 09
>>>>> Message-ID:
>>>>> <a2990db60912031830l31174f14l936f8e1f4f8abb53 at mail.gmail.com
>>>>> <mailto:a2990db60912031830l31174f14l936f8e1f4f8abb53 at mail.gmail.com>>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
>>>>>
>>>>> Any errors or mistakes are my own. If you want to post a correction,
>>>>> please include me in your reply so that I can update the copy I keep
>>>>> for my office.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bubba
>>>>> Deputy Seneschal
>>>>>
>>>>> ===
>>>>>
>>>>> Populace Meeting - 12/1/09
>>>>> Norman Unitarian Universalist Fellowship, Norman
>>>>>
>>>>> Starts at 7:45pm.
>>>>>
>>>>> Baron ? Coronation and Queen?s Champion went well, as did BAM. There
>>>>> have been two applications for my office?applications close on
>>>>> Thursday.
>>>>>
>>>>> Seneschal ? some items in my letter in the Plume: we had one bid for
>>>>> Beltane autocrat and tonight was the deadline, so unless someone hands
>>>>> me another one before the end of the meeting we?ll accept the one we
>>>>> have. Still open for applications for GAA and Protectorate
>>>>> autocrats?GAA is open until February and Protectorate is open until
>>>>> filled. There was talk about hosting King?s College?if someone wants
>>>>> to bid it, they need to do so now since the applications are due to
>>>>> Kingdom this month. Kingdom accepted our bid to host Round Table on
>>>>> 1/23/10. The offices of Rapier Marshal and Chronicler are open for
>>>>> applications until January, and Knight Marshal is open until January
>>>>> populace meeting (not February as in the Plume letter). Any questions
>>>>> about the baronial selection process, please contact the Northern
>>>>> Regional Seneschal?not me. Finally, we were approached by a
>>>>> representative of the Barony of Wiesenfeuer to go in on the purchase
>>>>> of a set of feast gear to be used by both baronies. The Finance
>>>>> Committee decided to authorize a $250 expenditure for this item.
>>>>>
>>>>> Treasurer ? we made money on Protectorate. $6-8K in our account.
>>>>> Budget for next year is being submitted this month.
>>>>>
>>>>> Herald ? please contact me with any questions you may have on name and
>>>>> device submissions.
>>>>>
>>>>> Chronicler ? looking for a replacement, my publishing deadline is
>>>>> generally the 20th of each month but you can ask if you need to submit
>>>>> a little later.
>>>>>
>>>>> Rapier Marshal ? Queen?s Champion, 4 Namron residents fought and did
>>>>> well so the practices are working. BAM was wet, but everyone had a
>>>>> good time. There will be rapier fighting at Yule?Namron is hosting
>>>>> the competition. I?ll also be having a Northern Regional muster after
>>>>> the tourney at Yule. Practices are on Tuesday evening at Sellers
>>>>> Recreation Center, 8301 S. Villa in Oklahoma City.
>>>>>
>>>>> Knight Marshal ? Practices are on Wednesday evening at Sellers
>>>>> Recreation Center, 8301 S. Villa in Oklahoma City. Wiesenfeuer has
>>>>> their practices on Thursday evening at Camp Dakani.
>>>>>
>>>>> Baron ? think about baronial ?get togethers? where we meet at a park
>>>>> and fight/visit
>>>>>
>>>>> Hospitaler ? Norman Mardi Gras will be Saturday, 2/13/10 in the
>>>>> evening. The populace expressed interest in participating.
>>>>>
>>>>> Archery Marshal ? Wednesday night practices are being held, but you
>>>>> should probably be at the journeyman level or higher to attend due to
>>>>> the condition of the field and lighting. Sunday practices continue.
>>>>> We?ll start making new arrows starting in January.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thrown Weapons Marshal ? practices are the 1st and 3rd Sundays before
>>>>> archery practice. We will have thrown weapons at Yule. One of the
>>>>> things we?re practicing is throwing spears at ground circles. Lots of
>>>>> new people doing both Archery and Thrown Weapons.
>>>>>
>>>>> Webminister ? Congrats to HL Tadhg for winning Bordermarche Bard.
>>>>> Need illustrations of devices for web site. I?m now the Facebook
>>>>> coordinator for Gulf Wars. I?m looking for a deputy web minister.
>>>>> I?ve created ?blank? pages for the 2010 events?autocrats please let me
>>>>> know what you want in them. I?m also looking for pictures of people
>>>>> for the site?you need to give me a release so I can publish them.
>>>>>
>>>>> Med Faire coordinator ? talking with Linda Linn. Stuff that we?re
>>>>> taking to Gulf Wars needs to be dried out for use at Med Faire since
>>>>> it?s the weekend following GW. I?m looking for a post revel site,
>>>>> preferably wet. I?d like to have a work day to go through the stuff
>>>>> in the shed and do any repairs or prep work needed?we need to be
>>>>> ?ready? by the end of February.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tadhg ? Meraud and I will be hosting an Orphans? Christmas at our home
>>>>> Christmas night.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ended at 8:29pm
>>>>>
>>>>>
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