[Namron] Namron Digest, Vol 60, Issue 43

Thu Apr 21 16:02:56 PDT 2011

Wow....we are really starting to make a mountain out of a mole hill on this
one.  For clarity, what is currently being suggested is to eliminate time
waste during Pop Meeting by the officers by having them report only what is
actually relevant to the affairs of the office or the activity which it
governs.  Historically, we officers have tended to drone on with lots of
irrelevant filler during our individual reports during Pop Meeting.  What we
are going to do is simply trim the fat and get to the point, thereby
shortening the business portion of the meeting considerably.  The overall
meeting may remain the same length for however long people choose to remain
and visit with one another.

There is no need for hyperbole, histrionics or melodramatics in the
discussion.  Not one single person will be "disenfranchised" by having the
officers edit themselves to actual pertinent business when addressing the
populace.  No one will be alienated, made to feel like their views are
unwanted, or run off with torches and pitchforks.  Let's tone it down a
little, folks.  We're all friends, at least enough to play this little game
that we do together called the SCA.  When we have a disagreement, especially
when we have one that hasn't even materialized yet, let's all be adults and
give one another the benefit of the assumption of acting in good faith.  As
long as we remain reasonable and mature about things, we can solve our
problems and challenges together in a constructive way, even tiny minor
little procedural issues like the frequency or length of Officers' Meetings.

Chris

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>   1. Fwd: [Ansteorra] Feast filling up!! (Doug Copley)
>   2. Re: March 2011 Officer Meeting Notes (Donnchadh Beag mac Griogair)
>   3. Re: March 2011 Officer Meeting Notes (Margaret Decker)
>   4. Re: March 2011 Officer Meeting Notes (Tadhg)
>   5. Possible Trebuchet Demo in Norman (Barone Orlando Di Gilead)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 17:22:34 -0500
> From: Doug Copley <doug.copley at gmail.com>
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> FYI -
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> Subject: [Ansteorra] Feast filling up!!
> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 17:01:02 -0500
> From: Jenn Kostal <ladygenevieve at gmail.com>
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> Greetings Ansteorra,
>
> Feast reservations are quickly filling up.  Don't miss out on this
> delicious
> opportunity!
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> Genevieve
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 20:56:36 -0500
> From: Donnchadh Beag mac Griogair <donnchadh at cornelius.norman.ok.us>
> To: Barony of Namron Mailing List <namron at lists.ansteorra.org>
> Subject: Re: [Namron] March 2011 Officer Meeting Notes
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> On 4/20/2011 4:53 PM, Matthias the Brewer wrote:
> > I'll disagree with you.  Officer reports should be given in front of the
> > populace.  The populace needs to be informed of what is going on in the
> > Barony, and I don't think you'll get that if you keep the officer reports
> > for officer meetings.
> >
> I agree that the populace needs to be informed of what is going on.
> That is why I suggested:
>
> Perhaps the Seneschal could give a quick "State of the
> Barony" summation at populace meeting to go over anything that is
> actually new.
>
> For that matter, I have no issue with an officer (or non-officer for
> that matter) who felt they had something new or interesting to
> contribute, sharing it with the Barony.  I just want to get away from
> the expectation that every officer has to give a report, regardless of
> whether there is actually anything new TO report.
>
>
> Donnchadh
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 23:16:22 -0500
> From: "Margaret Decker" <m.p.decker at att.net>
> To: "Barony of Namron Mailing List" <namron at lists.ansteorra.org>
> Subject: Re: [Namron] March 2011 Officer Meeting Notes
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>  *snip*
>  Personally, I think that officer reports should be saved for officer's
> meetings.  Perhaps the Seneschal could give a quick "State of the Barony"
> summation at populace meeting to go over anything that is actually new.  It
> would give us time to go over things like upcoming events or projects that
> the populace would like to discuss, or just spend time enjoying each other's
> company or learning something new.
>
>  In my opinion officers reports belong in the Plume and only when there is
> a change that need to be brought to attention for a specific reason does it
> need to be vocalized before the group as a whole. Changes in armor
> requirements for instance only need to be conveyed to fighters. What the
> group as a whole need to hear about are things like an office needs to be
> filled, there is an  event in the offing, the Crown needs something. A short
> business meeting followed by something else would be more interesting for
> most of us.
>  Baroness Margarite du Battenhelm
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> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 21:47:15 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Tadhg <ld_tadhg at yahoo.com>
> To: Barony of Namron Mailing List <namron at lists.ansteorra.org>
> Subject: Re: [Namron] March 2011 Officer Meeting Notes
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> I have to agree with Matthias.
>
> Not giving officers reports at the populace meetings will only serve to
> disengage the officers from the populace. Open communications are essential
> to a healthy group...and passing up an opportunity to inform the entire
> Barony is not a good idea in my opinion.
>
> I realize that some of the officers may feel like a broken record sometimes
> but don't underestimate the importance of reminding folks of the regular
> activities in the group. Remember, this may be some populace member's first
> meeting...or first meeting in a long time. A quick reminder helps put a face
> to an activity...it personalizes the activity.
>
> Regards,
> Tadhg
> ...brick by brick
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> --- On Wed, 4/20/11, Donnchadh Beag mac Griogair <
> donnchadh at cornelius.norman.ok.us> wrote:
>
> > From: Donnchadh Beag mac Griogair <donnchadh at cornelius.norman.ok.us>
> > Subject: Re: [Namron] March 2011 Officer Meeting Notes
> > To: "Barony of Namron Mailing List" <namron at lists.ansteorra.org>
> > Date: Wednesday, April 20, 2011, 8:56 PM
> > On 4/20/2011 4:53 PM, Matthias the
> > Brewer wrote:
> > > I'll disagree with you.? Officer reports should
> > be given in front of the
> > > populace.? The populace needs to be informed of
> > what is going on in the
> > > Barony, and I don't think you'll get that if you keep
> > the officer reports
> > > for officer meetings.
> > >
> > I agree that the populace needs to be informed of what is
> > going on.? That is why I suggested:
> >
> > Perhaps the Seneschal could give a quick "State of the
> > Barony" summation at populace meeting to go over anything
> > that is
> > actually new.
> >
> > For that matter, I have no issue with an officer (or
> > non-officer for that matter) who felt they had something new
> > or interesting to contribute, sharing it with the
> > Barony.? I just want to get away from the expectation
> > that every officer has to give a report, regardless of
> > whether there is actually anything new TO report.
> >
> >
> > Donnchadh
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> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 13:36:29 -0500
> From: Barone Orlando Di Gilead <orlando at agilejedi.com>
> To: Barony of Namron Mailing List <namron at lists.ansteorra.org>,
>        Skorragardr Virtual Skald <SkorragardrVirtualSkald at yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [Namron] Possible Trebuchet Demo in Norman
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> Greetings,
> I just talked with a gentleman from OU who runs the aviation outreach. On
> May 2nd he would like us to give a trebuchet demo to his kindergarten
> through 5th graders @ 630PM on the airfield. They are learning about
> projectile movement.
>
> I'd like the siege teams and possibly some archers to look at their
> schedules for that evening and get back with me. Wolfgang, please let me
> know what the likelihood is of bringing out persuasion as well.
>
> HE Orlando
>
>
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