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<DIV><SPAN class=783551823-21102004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>That
Ulfie has new grandbabies is not gossip - Ulf himself told us all. That
Barat is in the hospital is also something that Barat is passing on through
others. Scandalous talk about other people's secrets or personal
behavior is what needs to stop. That's what I meant as
"gossip".</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=783551823-21102004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=783551823-21102004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I
thought that was understood. Sorry.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=1><EM>There are, indeed, two things, knowledge and
</EM></FONT><A name=17></A><FONT face=Arial size=1><EM>opinion, of which the one
makes its possessor really to know, the other </EM></FONT><A name=18></A><FONT
face=Arial size=1><EM>to be ignorant.</EM></FONT> <A name=end></A><BR><FONT
face=Arial size=1><EM>Hippocrates</EM></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Jennifer
[mailto:dagmarandowen@cox.net]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 19, 2004 3:51
PM<BR><B>To:</B> kim@entelesoft.com; Barony of Namron<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
[Namron] Black Death - Remedies<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Don't discuss problems? So we should not discuss that
Barrot is in the hospitle, or that our B and B's two new wonderful grandbabies
are here a little early? What about announcing birthdays, weddings, and
the like, may we gossip about those happy things?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Muriel, I am not trying to argue with you, just to point out
that gossiping is not only human nature, but a vital part of how we interact
with one another.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Dagmar</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>Jennifer Jackson<BR>Discovery Toys, learning through play.<BR><A
href="http://www.discoverytoyslink.com/toysbyjennifer">www.discoverytoyslink.com/toysbyjennifer</A></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=muriel@entelesoft.com
href="mailto:muriel@entelesoft.com">muriel@entelesoft.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=namron@ansteorra.org
href="mailto:namron@ansteorra.org">namron@ansteorra.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, October 20, 2004 5:27
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Namron] Black Death -
Remedies</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>
<DIV><SPAN class=725293520-20102004><FONT face=Arial size=2>"Just all
getting along" won't happen. But I propose the following to limit
our plague:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=725293520-20102004><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=725293520-20102004><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
class=725293520-20102004><FONT face=Arial size=2>1. DON'T GOSSIP
(don't discuss your or other's problems with or in front of uninvolved
parties)</FONT></SPAN>
<DIV><SPAN class=725293520-20102004><FONT face=Arial size=2>2. If you
have a problem with someone, deal with THEM personally.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=725293520-20102004><FONT face=Arial size=2>3. If you
don't know how to deal with them, seek advice - from the officer most
directly involved with the issue, someone who shares your value
system, Appendix A of Corpora, or some combination
thereof.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=725293520-20102004><FONT face=Arial size=2>4. If you
believe someone has broken civil law in mundane life (not at an event or
while performing SCA business) contact civil authorities. (for SCA-related
civil offenses, please also contact SCA officers so they can coordinate
proactively with mundane authorities)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=725293520-20102004><FONT face=Arial size=2>5. DON'T
GOSSIP</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=725293520-20102004><FONT face=Arial size=2>6. DON'T
LISTEN TO GOSSIP - Sometimes people slip and say things they shouldn't. Just
because someone you respect says something doesn't make it fact - everyone
can be mislead or misinterpret a situation. If what they say worries
you, see #'s 2 - 5.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=725293520-20102004><FONT face=Arial size=2>7. DON'T REPEAT
GOSSIP</FONT></SPAN></DIV></FONT></SPAN></DIV></SPAN>
<DIV><SPAN class=725293520-20102004><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=725293520-20102004><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
class=725293520-20102004><FONT face=Arial size=2>As I like to say to
potential new Scadians - "The SCA takes all kinds". This is usually in
response to a comment about some horrid person they met who was in the SCA
and made them want to have nothing to do with us. </FONT></SPAN>Yes,
there are all kinds - people you won't like, people who won't like you, and
even really *bad* people who hurt others. When you encounter
these people, its time to decide what you believe in and stick to it.
My personal value system does not allow me the luxury of hating them.
Even if I ever claim to "hate" someone, those close to me know that if that
person were to ask me for even superficial help, I'd probably give it.
But those are my values and I don't require others to follow them.
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=725293520-20102004><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=725293520-20102004><FONT face=Arial size=2>Regardless of
values, one behavior is clearly not helpful. If you take issue with
someone and insist on discussing that issue with someone else who is not
involved, you are part of the problem. This is called gossip - good
intentions of "protecting" others do not make it not gossip. Just
don't gossip. If you slip up and say something you
shouldn't, apologize to your listeners and leave it at that. If
you catch ME doing it - please stop me! Call me on it!
Please!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=725293520-20102004><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=1><SPAN class=725293520-20102004><EM>-Muriel the
Long Winded</EM></SPAN></FONT></DIV></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=1><EM></EM></FONT> </DIV>
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