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color=#0000ff size=2>Donnchadh,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2>Check out the Wiesenfeuer site. They have done this
for a while and it is quite nice. I think the Virtual Scribe also has a
program that can generate the icons in the arms for those that don't have a good
picture. I found some great programs online that have all of the parts of
a potential device and their meanings. The one thing that Wiesenfeuer is
missing is a picture of the person, that would make a great
addition.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=655225716-10062005><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Genevieve</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B>
namron-bounces+jgypsee1=yahoo.com@ansteorra.org
[mailto:namron-bounces+jgypsee1=yahoo.com@ansteorra.org] <B>On Behalf Of
</B>Donnchadh<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, June 09, 2005 4:24<BR><B>To:</B> Barony
of Namron<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Namron] Devices and AoAs?<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV><FONT size=2>The biggest problem with the O&A is that you have to
understand the blazons. This can be difficult even for those of us who
have been subjected to Barat's flash cards. <BR></FONT><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><BR>So, one of the projects I have though about doing,
is creating a "Populace" section on the Namron website (with the Vscribe's
blessing of course) that lists the members of the Barony, along with their
device and maybe a picture.<SPAN> </SPAN>Other things could be added such
as a short description of their persona history etc. This would be another
way for someone to be able to put a face with a name and a device.<O:P
/></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <BR><BR>What do you guys
think?<SPAN> </SPAN>Would you be interested in doing this?<SPAN>
</SPAN>For it to work, people would have to get me a copy of their device that I
could scan in (I am in no way an artist, and have problems drawing stick
figures).</SPAN> <BR><FONT size=2><BR>Lord Donnchadh Beag mac Griogair
<BR>Herald - Barony of Namron <BR>Honorable Brotherhood of Brewers, Mazers, and
Vintners <BR><BR><BR><B>---------- Original Message -----------</B> <BR>From:
Scott Barrett <barrett1@cox.net> <BR>To: Barony of Namron
<namron@ansteorra.org> <BR>Sent: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 07:50:35 -0500
<BR>Subject: Re: [Namron] Devices and AoAs? <BR><BR>> The SCA online Ordinary
and Armorial, often called the OandA . Several <BR>> links to it can be found
by going to <A href="http://www.sca.org/"
target=_blank>www.sca.org</A>/heraldry/OandA <BR>> <BR>> ~Finnacan
<BR>> <BR>> On Tuesday, June 7, 2005, at 06:28 AM, el2iot2@mail.com wrote:
<BR>> <BR>> > where would we go to find a listing of devices, and to
whom they <BR>> > belong? Is there a list, or is it just learn on
the field? Inquiring <BR>> > minds want to know. <BR>> >
<BR>> > <BR>> > joy <BR>> > Radei <BR>> > ----- Original
Message ----- <BR>> > From: "William Herron" <fitzbubba@gmail.com>
<BR>> > To: "Barony of Namron" <namron@ansteorra.org>, ulfie@cox.net
<BR>> > Subject: Re: [Namron] Devices and AoAs? <BR>> > Date: Tue, 7
Jun 2005 03:27:51 -0400 <BR>> > <BR>> >> <BR>> >>> An
"achievement" is the arms with certain other things, like <BR>> >>>
supporters, <BR>> >>> a helm, mantling, crest, motto, etc.
These things depend on rank in <BR>> >>> the <BR>>
>>> SCA. For example, Master FitzBubba is a peer. He can
have a helm, a <BR>> >>> crest, and a motto, and the helm's mantling
can include a fur. (See <BR>> >>> <A
href="http://heraldry.ansteorra.org/achievements/"
target=_blank>http://heraldry.ansteorra.org/achievements/</A> for full
description) <BR>> >> <BR>> >> Sidebar: Ulf, did that
ever get done? Last time I looked, the online <BR>> >>
Achievement armorial was still dated 6/10/02. <BR>> >> <BR>>
>>> As for arms... You can paint anything (tasteful) on your shield,
<BR>> >>> provided it conforms to that ideal of an "attempt at
medieval" that <BR>> >>> we <BR>> >>> shoot for in the
SCA. But if you paint something on your shield that <BR>> >>>
someone else is using on theirs AND theirs is registered with the <BR>>
>>> College of Arms, they have grounds to ask you to remove it. (side
<BR>> >>> note - <BR>> >>> The Ansteorran College of
Heralds has a militant branch made up of <BR>> >>> several knights.
Don't buck the system... *grin*) <BR>> >> <BR>> >> And
it's not just on the battlefield. Once you get good at it, you <BR>>
>> can walk into a feast hall, look up at the banners hung on the wall,
<BR>> >> and say, okay, Gwyneth's here, Ulf's here, Their Majesties are
here, <BR>> >> and so on. <BR>> >> <BR>> >> Care,
<BR>> >> Bubba <BR>> >> <BR>> >>
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<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > joy <BR>> > <BR>> >
<BR>> > -- <BR>> >
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