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<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=937174223-24022006>Sorry
to help beat the dead horse, but we each get a swing now and
then.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=937174223-24022006></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=937174223-24022006>Let's
answer each question in the last post separately...</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN
class=937174223-24022006></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN
class=937174223-24022006>Q. If the meeting place is subject to change,
shouldn't that information go out ahead of time?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN
class=937174223-24022006></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN
class=937174223-24022006>A. Well, DUH. Once we HAVE a place,
the information will go out. In the Plume, on the website, on the
list, word-of-mouth, etc. Our Seneschal has been working for MONTHS to get
a new site. As all the people more experienced than I have posted
here, this is much more difficult than you might think. My
advice: If you weigh the options and don't find it worth your time to come
if finding the meeting will be a hassle, don't come to populace until we
have a stable meeting place. This will solve your current
problem.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN
class=937174223-24022006></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN
class=937174223-24022006>Q. How are newcomers supposed to find a group
that does not meet in the same place everytime, and the meetingplace isn't known
to members until the last minute, if they missed the previous
meeting?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN
class=937174223-24022006></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN
class=937174223-24022006>A. Again, DUH. They CAN'T.
Unfortunately, if we dont HAVE a place to meet, we can't very well tell them to
meet us there. Secondly, I'm sure everyone would love to meet the
same place every time. Circumstances and expense prevent us. We
aren't galavanting all over town changing the meeting place at the last second
for every meeting.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN
class=937174223-24022006></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN
class=937174223-24022006>Q. When a meeting is cancelled due to snow,
shouldn't an officer be present at site to inform those that do not have instant
access to the information of cancellation?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN
class=937174223-24022006></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN
class=937174223-24022006>A. Pooky IS an officer. He also volunteered
for that duty. Secondly, it is rather, er, unscientific to assume that
because a new Seneschal handled a novel situation a certain way that it will
happen exactly like that every time, in every situation, for the rest of
eternity.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=937174223-24022006></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN
class=937174223-24022006></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=937174223-24022006>The
"it" that you seem to refer to includes one instance, that of that one time we
cancelled a meeting. Everyone on this list knows we're trying to
find a new place for populace because the last place upped their
price. They also know that we are having a hard time finding a new
place. It is up to you to decide what is best for you in light of these
circumstances. No one can hand out information that does not yet
exist. We cannot meet at a place that has not been
found.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN
class=937174223-24022006></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=937174223-24022006>There
is no real point to debating the issues here as the people directly involved in
the process are too busy with the process to read all our crap and answer every
person's list posts individually. That's not to say that you can't debate
on the list to your heart's content, but know that most of the people responding
(including me) aren't close enough to the action to describe everything they've
already considered or where they're at.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV align=left class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
namron-bounces+muriel=entelesoft.com@ansteorra.org
[mailto:namron-bounces+muriel=entelesoft.com@ansteorra.org]<B>On Behalf Of
</B>Radei Drchevich<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, February 24, 2006 12:23
PM<BR><B>To:</B> donnchadh@cornelius.norman.ok.us; Barony of
Namron<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Namron] Official or
not...........<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
<P>If meeting place is subject to chamge, shouldn't that information go out
ahead of time? </P>
<P>How are newcomers suppost to find a group that does not meet in the same
place everytime, and the meetingplace isn't known to members until the last
minute, if they missed the previous meeting? </P>
<P>"Penciled in at Denny's", but the website still says Andrews Park.
</P>
<P>When a meeting is cancelled due to snow, shouldn't an officer be present at
site to inform those that do not have instant access to the information of
Cancellation? Did not happen at the dec meeting that was
cancelled. If Pookie had not been there at least 5 cars of people that I
saw ,in the 5 minutes I waited for answer, would not have known the meeting
was cancelled.</P>
<P>I have to disagree. I do not believe it has been handled well.
information is not being freely exchanged unless you live within a few miles
of the meeting site<which many of us DO NOT>.</P>
<P>joy</P>
<P>radei<BR><BR></P>
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Original Message -----<BR>From: Donnchadh
<DONNCHADH@CORNELIUS.NORMAN.OK.US><BR>To: "Barony of Namron"
<NAMRON@ANSTEORRA.ORG><BR>Subject: Re: [Namron] Official or
not...........<BR>Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 13:24:50 -0600<BR><BR>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I don't think anyone is
saying we shouldn't use the list to pass on information. Only that the
official discussion of issues that affect the Barony, such as where to have
future meetings, would be at populace meeting. It doesn't make sense
to have a discussion at populace meeting and have everyone give their
reasoning and the pros and cons of each decision, only to turn around and
have that exact same discussion on the list. If you have strong
feelings on the matter at hand and you can't make it to that populace
meeting, then I can only suggest asking someone else to convey your message
for you, or contact the Seneschal ahead of time. Believe me; I
understand not being able to make it to populace meeting. For a long
time, my work had me out of the state for months at a time, and I'm sure
decisions were made in the Barony when I had no chance to give my input.
<BR><BR>Again, no one is against spreading information via the list.
And I think our Seneschal has done a very good job with that considering how
quickly the weather can change around here. We just don't want to have
to duplicate every discussion and repeat the same considerations over and
over.</SPAN></P><FONT size=2><BR>Donnchadh <BR><BR><BR><B>----------
Original Message -----------</B> <BR>From: "Radei Drchevich"
<radei@moscowmail.com> <BR>To: "Barony of Namron"
<namron@ansteorra.org> <BR>Sent: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 10:02:01 -0500
<BR>Subject: Re: [Namron] Official or not........... <BR><BR>> Unofficial
or not. Courtesy demands a simple response. I have been officer
in many groups of this nature. Communication is Communication.
It A Phone can previde Official information, so can an e-mail.
<BR>> <BR>> And what about those of us 2 hours out? How do I
find out official information if the weather or my health prevent me from
makeing the 170 miles drive for a 2 hour populas meeting?? AM I
support to call long distance by telephone, speak to an answering machine
and still not get an answer?? <BR>> <BR>> Inquiring minds want to
know. <BR>> <BR>> joy <BR>> radei <BR>> <BR>> > -----
Original Message ----- <BR>> > From: aethelstan@cox.net <BR>> >
To: "Barony of Namron" <namron@ansteorra.org> <BR>> > Subject:
[Namron] Official or not........... <BR>> > Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006
19:42:32 -0500 <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > Your absolutly
correct my Lady, <BR>> > We shouldn't use this forum for official
communications. <BR>> > However, this list becomes very useful for the
passing of polite information. <BR>> > Please everyone, let's not get
our feathers ruffeled. <BR>> > <BR>> > As long as I have been
playing in this society, there has *always* <BR>> > been the
everpresent issue of meeting places. <BR>> > Our beloved Senechal (may
he rule long and well) is trying his ever <BR>> > best to deal with
the current situation. All the help you can give <BR>> > him would be
greatly appreciated. ie. call around yourselves and <BR>> > find out a
bit of info. that you can then pass on to him. *service <BR>> >
announcemt finished* <BR>> > <BR>> > As for you Ms. Advocate,
shame on you (swat nose with feathers), <BR>> > you of all folks
should know better than to try and stir up a <BR>> > situation under
the guises of taking an opposite position for the <BR>> > sake of
better understanding. <BR>> > Now go watch ten hours of monty python
for pennance. <BR>> > <BR>> > in service, <BR>> > Master
Aethelstan <BR>> > residant junior underflunky <BR>> > <BR>>
> <BR>> > > This is sooo funny, Since this is an
Unofficial forum, why be <BR>> > > distributing any "official"
information on the list anyway? call <BR>> > > me the devils
advocate, but does that mean all event info is not <BR>> > >
official if it distributed on the list? Does that mean any info <BR>>
> > on meetings is not official if it distributed on the list?? does
<BR>> > > that mean we should preface our posts with the disclaimer
of this <BR>> > > is not an official announcement of..... Blah Blah
Blah.... <BR>> > > Ducking for cover - <BR>> > >
Lady Susannah Blackthorne <BR>> > > <BR>> > >
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