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Since you have chosen to single out the Herald, I feel the need to
respond. You wrote me an email that I did indeed miss although I have
since talked to you about the subject in question, but it was 6 MONTHS
AGO. Other than that I have responded to every email addressed to me
personally. I helped you work up the paperwork for your name, which is
now registered. So what in your esteemed opinion am I doing wrong?<br>
<br>
Donnchadh<br>
<br>
Radei Drchevich wrote:
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<p>OK ADDRESS: 14 E-MAILS TO OFFICERS IN 4 MONTHS WITHOUT SO MUCH AS
A SINGLE RESPONSE. And I know the Senechal and I are not on the best
of terms, But I had to ask for the location 5 hours before the last
meeting. nothing had been said. weather called for freezing rain and
nothing had been said. I ended up not being able to attend because we
had freezing rain here 85 miles from Norman. And if you note, I stated
I would be willing to contribute to the cost of the room, I think most
would rather than have to go to a restaurant and feel oblagated to
order food.</p>
<p>Even the Herald doesn't answer e-mails. so why post e-mail
addresses at all??</p>
<p>joy<br>
radei<br>
</p>
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style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px;">-----
Original Message -----<br>
From: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:muriel@entelesoft.com">muriel@entelesoft.com</a><br>
To: "'Barony of Namron'" <NAMRON@ANSTEORRA.ORG><br>
Subject: RE: [Namron] Official or not (it's merely pining for the
fjords)<br>
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 18:12:09 -0600<br>
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<div><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span
class="937174223-24022006">Sorry to help beat the dead horse, but we
each get a swing now and then.</span></font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span
class="937174223-24022006"></span></font> </div>
<div><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span
class="937174223-24022006">Let's answer each question in the last post
separately...</span></font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span
class="937174223-24022006"></span></font> </div>
<div><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span
class="937174223-24022006">Q. If the meeting place is subject to
change, shouldn't that information go out ahead of time?</span></font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span
class="937174223-24022006"></span></font> </div>
<div><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span
class="937174223-24022006">A. Well, DUH. Once we HAVE a place, the
information will go out. In the Plume, on the website, on the list,
word-of-mouth, etc. Our Seneschal has been working for MONTHS to get a
new site. As all the people more experienced than I have posted here,
this is much more difficult than you might think. My advice: If you
weigh the options and don't find it worth your time to come if finding
the meeting will be a hassle, don't come to populace until we have a
stable meeting place. This will solve your current problem.</span></font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span
class="937174223-24022006"></span></font> </div>
<div><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span
class="937174223-24022006">Q. How are newcomers supposed to find a
group that does not meet in the same place everytime, and the
meetingplace isn't known to members until the last minute, if they
missed the previous meeting?</span></font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span
class="937174223-24022006"></span></font> </div>
<div><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span
class="937174223-24022006">A. Again, DUH. They CAN'T.
Unfortunately, if we dont HAVE a place to meet, we can't very well tell
them to meet us there. Secondly, I'm sure everyone would love to meet
the same place every time. Circumstances and expense prevent us. We
aren't galavanting all over town changing the meeting place at the last
second for every meeting.</span></font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span
class="937174223-24022006"></span></font> </div>
<div><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span
class="937174223-24022006">Q. When a meeting is cancelled due to
snow, shouldn't an officer be present at site to inform those that do
not have instant access to the information of cancellation?</span></font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span
class="937174223-24022006"></span></font> </div>
<div><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span
class="937174223-24022006">A. Pooky IS an officer. He also
volunteered for that duty. Secondly, it is rather, er, unscientific to
assume that because a new Seneschal handled a novel situation a certain
way that it will happen exactly like that every time, in every
situation, for the rest of eternity.</span></font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span
class="937174223-24022006"></span></font> </div>
<div><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span
class="937174223-24022006"></span></font> </div>
<div><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span
class="937174223-24022006">The "it" that you seem to refer to includes
one instance, that of that one time we cancelled a meeting. Everyone
on this list knows we're trying to find a new place for populace
because the last place upped their price. They also know that we are
having a hard time finding a new place. It is up to you to decide what
is best for you in light of these circumstances. No one can hand out
information that does not yet exist. We cannot meet at a place that
has not been found.</span></font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span
class="937174223-24022006"></span></font> </div>
<div><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span
class="937174223-24022006">There is no real point to debating the
issues here as the people directly involved in the process are too busy
with the process to read all our crap and answer every person's list
posts individually. That's not to say that you can't debate on the
list to your heart's content, but know that most of the people
responding (including me) aren't close enough to the action to describe
everything they've already considered or where they're at.</span></font></div>
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face="Tahoma" size="2">-----Original Message-----<br>
<b>From:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:namron-bounces+muriel=entelesoft.com@ansteorra.org">namron-bounces+muriel=entelesoft.com@ansteorra.org</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:namron-bounces+muriel=entelesoft.com@ansteorra.org">mailto:namron-bounces+muriel=entelesoft.com@ansteorra.org</a>]<b>On Behalf
Of </b>Radei Drchevich<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, February 24, 2006 12:23 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:donnchadh@cornelius.norman.ok.us">donnchadh@cornelius.norman.ok.us</a>; Barony of Namron<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Namron] Official or not...........<br>
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</font></div>
<p>If meeting place is subject to chamge, shouldn't that
information go out ahead of time? </p>
<p>How are newcomers suppost to find a group that does not meet
in the same place everytime, and the meetingplace isn't known to
members until the last minute, if they missed the previous meeting? </p>
<p>"Penciled in at Denny's", but the website still says Andrews
Park. </p>
<p>When a meeting is cancelled due to snow, shouldn't an officer
be present at site to inform those that do not have instant access to
the information of Cancellation? Did not happen at the dec meeting
that was cancelled. If Pookie had not been there at least 5 cars of
people that I saw ,in the 5 minutes I waited for answer, would not have
known the meeting was cancelled.</p>
<p>I have to disagree. I do not believe it has been handled
well. information is not being freely exchanged unless you live within
a few miles of the meeting site<which many of us DO NOT>.</p>
<p>joy</p>
<p>radei<br>
<br>
</p>
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Original Message -----<br>
From: Donnchadh <DONNCHADH@CORNELIUS.NORMAN.OK.US><br>
To: "Barony of Namron" <NAMRON@ANSTEORRA.ORG><br>
Subject: Re: [Namron] Official or not...........<br>
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 13:24:50 -0600<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">I don't
think anyone is saying we shouldn't use the list to pass on
information. Only that the official discussion of issues that affect
the Barony, such as where to have future meetings, would be at populace
meeting. It doesn't make sense to have a discussion at populace
meeting and have everyone give their reasoning and the pros and cons of
each decision, only to turn around and have that exact same discussion
on the list. If you have strong feelings on the matter at hand and you
can't make it to that populace meeting, then I can only suggest asking
someone else to convey your message for you, or contact the Seneschal
ahead of time. Believe me; I understand not being able to make it to
populace meeting. For a long time, my work had me out of the state for
months at a time, and I'm sure decisions were made in the Barony when I
had no chance to give my input. <br>
<br>
Again, no one is against spreading information via the list. And I
think our Seneschal has done a very good job with that considering how
quickly the weather can change around here. We just don't want to have
to duplicate every discussion and repeat the same considerations over
and over.</span></p>
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Donnchadh <br>
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<b>---------- Original Message -----------</b> <br>
From: "Radei Drchevich" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:radei@moscowmail.com"><radei@moscowmail.com></a> <br>
To: "Barony of Namron" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:namron@ansteorra.org"><namron@ansteorra.org></a> <br>
Sent: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 10:02:01 -0500 <br>
Subject: Re: [Namron] Official or not........... <br>
<br>
> Unofficial or not. Courtesy demands a simple response. I have
been officer in many groups of this nature. Communication is
Communication. It A Phone can previde Official information, so can an
e-mail. <br>
> <br>
> And what about those of us 2 hours out? How do I find out
official information if the weather or my health prevent me from
makeing the 170 miles drive for a 2 hour populas meeting?? AM I
support to call long distance by telephone, speak to an answering
machine and still not get an answer?? <br>
> <br>
> Inquiring minds want to know. <br>
> <br>
> joy <br>
> radei <br>
> <br>
> > ----- Original Message ----- <br>
> > From: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:aethelstan@cox.net">aethelstan@cox.net</a> <br>
> > To: "Barony of Namron" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:namron@ansteorra.org"><namron@ansteorra.org></a> <br>
> > Subject: [Namron] Official or not........... <br>
> > Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 19:42:32 -0500 <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > Your absolutly correct my Lady, <br>
> > We shouldn't use this forum for official communications. <br>
> > However, this list becomes very useful for the passing of
polite information. <br>
> > Please everyone, let's not get our feathers ruffeled. <br>
> > <br>
> > As long as I have been playing in this society, there has
*always* <br>
> > been the everpresent issue of meeting places. <br>
> > Our beloved Senechal (may he rule long and well) is trying
his ever <br>
> > best to deal with the current situation. All the help you can
give <br>
> > him would be greatly appreciated. ie. call around yourselves
and <br>
> > find out a bit of info. that you can then pass on to him.
*service <br>
> > announcemt finished* <br>
> > <br>
> > As for you Ms. Advocate, shame on you (swat nose with
feathers), <br>
> > you of all folks should know better than to try and stir up a
<br>
> > situation under the guises of taking an opposite position for
the <br>
> > sake of better understanding. <br>
> > Now go watch ten hours of monty python for pennance. <br>
> > <br>
> > in service, <br>
> > Master Aethelstan <br>
> > residant junior underflunky <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > > This is sooo funny, Since this is an Unofficial forum,
why be <br>
> > > distributing any "official" information on the list
anyway? call <br>
> > > me the devils advocate, but does that mean all event
info is not <br>
> > > official if it distributed on the list? Does that mean
any info <br>
> > > on meetings is not official if it distributed on the
list?? does <br>
> > > that mean we should preface our posts with the
disclaimer of this <br>
> > > is not an official announcement of..... Blah Blah
Blah.... <br>
> > > Ducking for cover - <br>
> > > Lady Susannah Blackthorne <br>
> > > <br>
> > > <br>
> > > <br>
> > > --------------------------------- <br>
> > > Brings words and photos together (easily) with <br>
> > > PhotoMail - it's free and works with Yahoo! Mail. <br>
> > > <br>
> > <br>
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