<P>In all fairness. You have done your share of complaining when people try to help. </P>
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<DIV>Could you please follow up and see if this is a viable option for us?</DIV>
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<DIV>I have tried to sit on my hands and say nothing as this thread continues but alas, I cannot. I wish people would keep in mind that this is a volunteer organization. You get back what you invest. Is it too much to ask that people put a little effort and do a little investigation on their suggestions? I'm getting rather exasperated with those who make suggestions (that may or may not work), then expect others to run ragged trying to do the actual foot work. THEN these people complain that their suggestions are not being handled well. There's an old saying "If you want something done right. do it yourself." </DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=Apple-style-span>We were spoiled rotton by Buzz. (which we did buy food... but that's another issue) Until they re-open, if they reopen, we have to deal with finding a place to meet. Yes, we have uncertain about the place we are meeting at present (although it has been at the same place for a few months now). That is because no matter where we think about meeting there is always those who complain that is it not what they think is ideal. (Have any of the complainers actually tried to help to find a place? - and I mean do some of the footwork- not just talk) Oh, and for clarification- Thomas penciled us in a Denny's as <SPAN class=Apple-style-span style="TEXT-DECORATION: underline">an option</SPAN> (in case there were objections to paying $40 to meet at Andrews. If he had waited then that option would have been taken by another group and there aren't that many free meeting places in Norman) We need to decide what we can live with. (no solution is going to be perfect)</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=Apple-style-span>What I am curious about is: Has anyone actually contacted our Seneschal directly or one on one to lodge complaints on how this problem is being handled? Or is it easier to go straight to the internet list to safely grandstand? Thomas does have a cell with lots of minutes and free long distance. Call him. (If you can't afford the long distance, place a short call then he will call you back on his phone. A minute of long distance is not THAT expensive)</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV>As for the dead horse issue of the populas that was cancelled because of weather that some keep harping on, I want to say this: Thomas did apologize for getting the information out late but the weather did deteriorate quickly I was out in it with a 4WD SUV and it was dangerous. I grew up in the north and know how to drive on ice and snow (and BTW Thomas is a degreed Meteorologist and therefor maybe able to make some weather decisions.) Oh and Pooky, who is an officer and gotta love him WAS there out in the freeze, letting people know. Could we please let that horse die? Oh BTW, that day Thomas was also having to deal with a very stressed and worried wife who was concerned because one of her close friends was having a angiogram (and possible open heart surgery) that day. Seneschals have real life stresses too. </DIV>
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<DIV>Yes I am biased. I have watched my husband working his tail off for this Barony and worry himself sick over it's welfare. I, for one am getting rather tired of the "Armchair seneschals, armchair baron/esses and armchair .... (pick the office or job of your choice). I am getting tired of people making all sorts of suggestions (some of them are good and need to be followed up on) then disappearing into a black hole only to emerge months later to complain that their suggestions aren't being utilized to their satisfaction. (I have always found it amazing how many people hold others to standards that they themselves cannot maintain) Deeds are needed more then words. </DIV>
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<DIV>The commitment to being a officer/landed is large. Please keep in mind that these people are our friends and loved ones. They are real people who do try to do their best and ARE HUMAN. I know this easy to forget when you are sitting behind a computer. They are NOT a convenient whipping boy/girl or other target when they fall short of unreasonable expectations or when others are just having a bad day. If you don't like they way something is going why not contact that person directly and offer to help share the load?</DIV>
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<DIV>We make the Barony what it is. It can either be a group of people working together or a group of whiners, complainers. I, for one, much prefer the first option.</DIV><BR><BR>
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