NR - Principality name

[Chuck_CTR_Graves at mmacmail.jccbi.gov]

Greetings from Tadhg.

>...Traditionally, an image (whether it had anything 
>to do with the region it was 
>representing or not) came after the name.

Normally, that's true. But we have the luxury of trying to get them to jibe from
the beginning.

And Pug's point is well taken, we are not here to decide what will be used...the
overwhelming majority of the North is not on this list. My  suggestion is more
to start people thinking of the other items we have to deal with: name, device,
badge, etc. Remember, Nordsteorra is part of my job title...it says so on
Borek's roster.  8^) 

>"Nordsteorra", while a fine name, and is being used
>by some people for the Northern Region, has two 
>drawbacks.  The first, and really the least important, 
>is that it is a permanent link to Ansteorra, and if 
>the ultimate long term goal is to be anything but the 
>provincial northern appendage of Ansteorra
>(as some people seem to think it is), the name needs to 
>reflect the identity that you want people to remember.  

Two things: 1) I believe most of the people on this list who support
Principality also oppose Kingdom...they want a Principality and still remain
Ansteorran and 2) there is a lot to say about being a northern
appendage...that's where my head sits...not much I can do without it.

At any rate, I agree with Diarmuit. We (the whole North) need to find
items/elements/things we see in ourselves and what we want others to see in us.
So kick it around...but listen to what other people want.

Personally, I'm partial to compass stars...how about you Gunny?

>Just as an aside, there were Europeans in Oklahoma 
>during the SCA's Period.  The Coronado
>expedition came through in 1541; Juan de O±ate in 1601; 
>and Baca in 1634.  There may have 
>been others also, but these were the major expeditions 
>searching for Quivara.  I'd be interested
>in what *they* called the region.

They called it "Llano Estacado"...the Staked Plains. When the Spaniards traveled
through these parts (being Oklahoma, Texas and New Mexico), the landscape was so
devoid of markings they could easily become lost. So they would drive large
wooden stakes into the ground to help them navigate. I'd have to go check my
history as to how great an area that name was used for...but I believe it
included at least the western half of Oklahoma.

Regards,
Tadhg

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