NR - Principality

[Peachy Keen Barbara Jean]

Umm... where to begin... I guess first of all, I too have a Yankee 
upbringing. I don't feel superior or inferior to anyone because of 
that but, I am often mistaken because my mannerisms/ideas are a 
little different. One of the things that this lends is a bit of 
confusion over this rivalry between OK and TX...? I've only lived in 
OK for a little over 3 years. I can only think that it is perhaps a 
little like the rivalry between PA and NJ. I grew up near Philly and 
so that is what I understand.... where am I going with this... well, 
I started participating in the SCA earlier this year. I am a "newbie" 
and well, I've been watching this yarn with some concern. I am not 
here to chastise anyone but, is the SCA not, for all intensive 
purposes a game? A way to relax and escape the horrors and stress and 
bigotry of the the real world? When I discovered this group my heart 
just leaped because I had finally found a place where others seemed 
to understand me. I feel less of the "Oh your a yank you think your 
better than us" attitude and more of the love of just being alive and 
being able to enjoy that. The SCA saved my sanity because I had just 
about given up on OK and wanted to return to what I knew and couldn't 
because of my circumstances. But, the SCA is made up of the people 
who share their dreams for a better place for child and adult alike. 
So, seeing this topic as heated as it seems to be... well it 
bewilders me a little. I can't say that I know the way Texans feel 
about Oklahomans or visa versa.... I know what rivalry can do to 
people when taken too far... And what's to say is too far? A 
Principality may just be what this region needs. A way for the 
Northern Ansteorrans to feel better recognized for their efforts. A 
way to allow the Southern Ansteorrans to feel that the North is still 
a strong part of Ansteorra. What better recognition could there be? 
The North wants to be noticed not forgotten and becoming a 
Principality will make people stand up and take notice. But... will 
it be the wrong kind of recognition? Will it flare up even more 
rivalry and division between the North and the South? Is this to be 
ignored? I'm not suggesting that the North become under anyones thumb 
(not suggesting that they are there, I'm only speculating and 
probably opening more discussion) but, from what I can see it looks 
that this is a delicate matter that needs delicate handling. And 
well, where does that leave me... still a little confused not because 
I don't understand rivalry but, because I am not sure where I stand. 
Perhaps if I was with the SCA for longer I might see what people are 
saying happen in action and become a little disturbed by it. I don't 
know. I guess I don't see it as Texas and Oklahoma when I am at an 
event but as Ansteorra the beautiful Kingdom with beautiful people 
who understand what chivalry and honor is and want to make that come 
to life.

Ok... perhaps this was unnecessary and maybe I don't want to know the 
answers but maybe just heard. How selfish am I!

Nadine des Jardins (Barbara in mundane)


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From: HEGitana at aol.com
Sent: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 00:57:24 EDT
To: northern at ansteorra.org
Subject: NR - Principality



Looks like this didn't go when I tried to send it earlier.  If it did 
please 
accept my apologies for the double post.
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In a message dated 9/9/00 4:44:37 PM Central Daylight Time, 
marc-carlson at utulsa.edu writes:

<<  I'm certainly not trying to
 pick an argument  >>

Thank you, nor am I. Neither do I take offense at any of your 
response, I 
fully understand where you are coming from.  If you know me, you know 
that I 
have had serious differences of opinions with some from Texas.  I'm a 
Southerner that was raised a Yankee and then came back to be a 
Southerner 
again.  I'm even told that is the reason why what I say is often 
misunderstood.  I don't have that slow southern manner of speaking. 
 (Wish I 
did, I love it)

In any case, I was not speaking at all of those things that concern 
you, only 
my perception that the mundane OK/Texas rivalry might be seeping in. 
 I'm 
glad you don't think that is the case.  Guess I've just really never 
thought 
of myself as that different from those I play with in Texas, but I 
can 
respect that you and others do.

Gitana



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