NR - Thoughts on a chilly morning......

Burke McCrory bmccrory at oktax.state.ok.us
Thu Feb 15 14:36:38 PST 2001


At 01:13 PM 2/15/2001 -0600, you wrote:
>Sir Burke stated:
>
> >But unless you have specific information as to who the posters are
> > and that they are connected to Master Tarl's household, I think you have
> > stepped over the line.  .  I have checked back and can find no postings to
> > this list that indicate who these people are or that they are connected in
> > any way to Master Tarl.
>
>Please note in my post I stated:
>"from what I understand the Route44 Gang refers to people playing out of
>Tarl and Stacia's living room. If I am mistaken then someone needs to
>correct this perception by using their real names. Until then, I will assume
>that this is coming from that Household."
>
>You will note I said "this *perception*...."  This is a *perception* formed
>from actively participating in Namron.  The nickname is known to several in
>Namron (and some outside of Namron) to be a reference to the aforementioned
>household and it's allies.
>
>As for postings "that indicate who these people are or that they are
>connected in any way to Master Tarl," I refer you too Tadhg's accidental
>"Re: offline" post to this very list.  In it he states:
>
>"...Arianne...she waits to the last moment, selects someone associated with
>the 'Route 44 Gang'..."
>
>Please note that he names Arianne, our Northern Regional Seneschal, who is
>well known as a member of Tarl and Stacia's household.  Thus, the connection
>between the "Route 44 Gang" and Tarl and Stacia's household is made.
>(Personal note: I'm not "smearing" Arianne, just quoting the line above as a
>proof of the reference.)
>
>Also, the anonymous posters have willfully and gleefully adopted the "Route
>44 gang" moniker from Tadhg's post.  From the "NR - Re:" post by
>"penguinlust":
>
>"another member of the "Route 44 Gang"   ;-)
>
>PS:
>Hey Tadhg! Thanks for the cool name!"
>
>
> >> Your post shows that you obviously have
> >> a personal problem with Master Tarl
> >> and are now carrying out a campaign
> >> of smearing him by association.
>
>"obviously?"
>
>I have no desire to smear Master Tarl on this forum.  If anyone is smearing
>Master Tarl (and those with whom he and his wife are associated) it is these
>anonymous posters and their juvenile behavior since, as mentioned above, the
>"Route 44 gang" moniker was conceived by someone in Namron as a reference to
>that household and it's allies.  By taking on said reference, these
>anonymous posters are gleefully, and possibly maliciously, causing harm to
>that household's reputation.
>
> > I believe that you either need to publicly post your
> > proof or publicly post him an apology.
>
>I have now submitted "proof" for the basis of my perception.  It is now up
>to someone to provide proof that is contrary to that perception.
>
>As I indicated above, it is possible that the "Route 44 gang" postings are
>coming from someone wishing to smear that household and it's allies.  If
>that is the case, then I *will* apologize for linking Master Tarl and his
>household to the anonymous postings.  But until the anonymous cowards come
>out and admit who they are, we will most likely never know if that is the
>case or if it is truly originating from those whom I initially alleged.
>
>Unfortunately, in today's internet world, it is all too easy to get an
>anonymous identity and perform willful acts of character assassination
>without fear of retribution.
>
>
>Anya
>aka
>Jennene Stanley


Again Anya, I must thank you for making my point.  You say you are basing 
your slam of Master Tarl on the "perception" that you have that this 
"Anonymous poster" is connected to his household through some "nebulous 
connection" that they are using the signature of "Route 44 gang".  A 
nick-name you say was dreamed up in Namron and included in an accidental 
public post from Tadhg.  I might point out that Tadgh makes no mention of 
who exactly he includes in this "Route 44 gang".  You yourself state that 
it is very easy to get an anonymous E-mail address and that this poster 
could be anyone.  I could make a case "FOR ARGUMENTS SAKE" that you are the 
anonymous poster and that the reason behind this is to smear and discredit 
Master Tarl as a part of some personal vendetta.  Now let me say 
immediately, that I don't believe what I just wrote to be true, but that it 
is just as valid an unproven statement as what you have posted as your 
reasons.  I think that you need to give some thought to what you have 
posted here and then perhaps you will see that you do owe Master Tarl an 
apology.

Sir Burke


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