[NR] Northern Digest, Vol 58, Issue 4
doug.copley at gmail.com
Tue Feb 8 09:57:58 PST 2011
If we are discussing feelings getting hurt, what about the feelings of
those that would like to have what they consider to be a more period
name than the North. By telling them they are not allowed to discuss it
because they might hurt someone's feelings is a slap in their face and
hurts their feelings.
No matter what is done, a new name for the North or no new name for the
North, someone someone somewhere is going to get their feelings hurt.
When choosing a name, someone somewhere is going to get their feelings
hurt because the name they wanted or the name they submitted is not the
There is no way to avoid the possibility of hurting someone's feelings.
We can help to minimize that possibility by discussing it openly and
give everyone an opportunity to voice their concerns.
Rather than saying that "someone" might, possibly, perhaps, maybe, get
their feelings hurt I would like to have someone step forward and say
"I" don't like it and here is why!
Let's treat this as an adult conversation and realize that everyone is
entitled to their opinion but that there is a possibility that no matter
what is done "someone" will feel slighted or hurt.
"I" am in favor of a new name than the North. We are not the same as we
were a few years ago, we have new "cousins" and I think we should
acknowledge that and work at being more inclusive. I also like the idea
of being more period and having a distinctive name for us.
Vincenti da Murano
On 2/8/2011 11:30 AM, Niewoehner, Hugh wrote:
> To me the best reason for the region to have a name other than "The North"
> is that was not what was done in period. For example the northern regions
> of France were Bretagne, and Normandie, the southern regions were Languedoc,
> Provence, ect. And the fluidity of Kingdome borders is one of the things
> that let to a strong identity with one's region. Bretagne and Normandie
> were both part of England at one time, but the people still identified
> themselves as a Breton or Norman.
> Don Timothy LeCorbuiser
> Most native Bretton's still think Bretagne first, French second. A professor at Tubingen university stated to me a few years ago "The world tries to deal with Germany as a monolithic block and is mystified when 'Germany' doesn't react as expected. That's because, until recently, Germany was composed of up to 1200 separate kingdoms and principalities<Bold> and we still tend to think that way.</Bold>" It's human to think regionally. We all still have great friends and companions outside our localities.
> And on the logic approach...As a field commander try yelling "North to me" on the battlefield at Gulf Wars and see who turns up.
> Though not mentioned in Timothy's post, a lot of discussion goes on about people getting their feelings hurt and how it should be avoided. If the North does this, someone, somewhere, is going to get their feelings hurt. But this whole topic probably wouldn't exist if some people on the other side of the issue didn't _already_ have their feelings hurt. You _can't_ avoid it. The question is only who and how much. It goes back to that human thing again.
> HE Damon
> "Mortus sum et Cura non".
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