[NR] northern names process

[Tadhg]

Like Vincenti, I understand and agree with your frustration. And I am working at the sorted list from the top down.

But I am just one volunteer and the reason I didn't step up to the plate before this was the volume of initial submissions. 

Call it lazy but I prefer to see what people wanted in order to address a supported (by the populace) subset. Some will not fly but others will...even if they take a little work.

Tadhg
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-----Original Message-----
From: "SBarrett" <barrett1 at cox.net>
Sender: northern-bounces+ld_tadhg=yahoo.com at lists.ansteorra.orgDate: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 08:37:04 
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Subject: Re: [NR] northern names process

Thanks - Oh, and to clarify, I wasn't upset at Emma. She did the right 
thing.
It was the news I read, not the messenger, that got me upset.
I for one am glad we have someone like Emma in Ansteorra
We could use another dozen or so just like her.

~Finnacan

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Doug Copley" <doug.copley at gmail.com>
To: "Northern Region of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." 
<northern at lists.ansteorra.org>
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 7:38 AM
Subject: Re: [NR] northern names process


>I understand you completely. I was not happy with the idea of someone 
>saying that it should tossed and restarted. There are a number of people 
>that have worked very hard to try to make this smooth. I know of people 
>that drove one way for 3 or 4 hours to get to one of the meetings and then 
>left after the meeting (due to work and family they could not stay for the 
>event).
>
> My favorite names did not make the cut:-(  but my least favorite names did 
> not either:-)  So although my favorite is not being chosen I still support 
> the process and those kind people that have stepped forward to run the 
> process and have tried to come up with names.
>
> I also would ask the heralds that may be researching the names (I believe 
> that Tadhg was trying to help coordinate some of those efforts) to see if 
> a slight modification to the name would make it work so that it would 
> pass. The change may cause it to lose favor but at least the populace 
> would have the chance to voice their opinion.
>
> Vincenti
>
> On 6/30/2011 10:50 PM, SBarrett wrote:
>> Couple of points...
>>
>> Emma Featherstan stopped in to let us know that many of the names were
>> not viable from a heraldic point of view and suggested that we (the
>> north) were going about this all wrong - backwards, I believe, was her
>> description
>>
>> I responded that a.) the process was not as simple as one person sending
>> in a name for themselves but was instead a massive group effort,( and
>> had been handled fairly well, all things considered)...
>> and b.) the heralds of the region ought to get involved.
>>
>> Nearly a year has passed and now we find few of the proposed names would
>> stand a chance.
>> We should have known this 6 months ago.
>>
>> For the heraldic community to tell us we were going about it the wrong
>> way now, after all this time, is frankly a little troublesome.
>>
>> I made a few suggetions as to how they might do that, but I did not
>> intend to suggest restarting the entire process. If I did, I apologize
>> for writing so poorly and miscommunicating my intentions.
>>
>> I'm saying the region needs her heralds to step up. This is their
>> department, after all, and they will have final say. Better to get their
>> say up front rather than slamming our heads against the unyielding Wall
>> of Conflict for another year.
>>
>> And - they should start with the names currently under consideration and
>> tell why they do or don't have a shot at acceptance.
>>
>> If they are doing this, they have my thanks and gratitude, as do the
>> Northern Landeds who have helped assure this was a calm and professional
>> process.
>>
>> Wyndlehall (Windy Hill) is an actual Old English Name. I would like to
>> see the heralds debate names like Hrithmarc (Tempest Land) and Cyrmoden
>> (Noisy Court).
>> If they can't make any of the current names work, they could at least
>> try to give some viable alternatives based on the original names 
>> suggested.
>>
>>
>> If this message seemed a bit harsh, I apologize. Emma telling Cassius
>> this process was backward, as well as the idea some might want to
>> restart, got me a little upset.
>>
>>
>>
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