[NR] Results from the NORTHERN REGIONAL NAMING SURVEY

[Marc Carlson]

Lucais, 

Emma's a book herald.  Of COURSE she's thinking of register-ability, regardless of anything else.

And not to scare anyone with the evil monster in the room, should there ever actually be a successful push for Principality, then we'd have a name that could be registered, rather than have to screw with having to do this again in the Future.

Marc/Diarmaid

> From: lucaisdubelier at pcsok.com
> To: northern at lists.ansteorra.org
> Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 10:45:06 -0500
> Subject: Re: [NR] Results from the NORTHERN REGIONAL NAMING SURVEY
> 
> Registerability?  I thought we were just coming up with a regional name.
> Did we register "northern, southern, coastal, etc. regions"?  Are regions
> even considered branches that can be registered? 
> 
> Lucais
> 
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> Behalf Of Jennifer Smith
> Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 10:30 AM
> To: Northern Region of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc.
> Subject: Re: [NR] Results from the NORTHERN REGIONAL NAMING SURVEY
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> 
> On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Cameron Lewis <okrabbit at cox.net> wrote:
> > Romance languages are not being ruled out and any translation in any 
> > language was welcomed in the process.  We spoke about translations in 
> > a meeting last fall and that is where we run into problems.  Calontir, 
> > someone remembered as meaning heartland from a song or something 
> > (maybe someone with better knowledge could help out here) and so we 
> > would not be able to register another translation of that for a region 
> > name.
> 
> Point of order: if we're talking registerability, the translation doesn't
> matter for purposes of conflict. Sound and appearance do, yes.  I think the
> objection raised about Calontir was just pointing out that if we chose a
> name that meant 'heartland', that we'd have two 'heartland' areas right next
> to each other. :)
> 
> More importantly, the name has to be in a documentable period style pattern,
> which is unfortunately where many of the proposed names fall down... just
> because you can translate a few words into a language doesn't mean the
> *pattern* is a period one! To quote from the Rules for Submission, "for
> example, there is a pattern of using the names of kinds of animals with
> -ford in the attested English place names Oxford, Swinford and Hartford. A
> case could be made for inventing a similar name like Sheepford."  But not,
> you see, for Busyford; "busy" might be descriptive of the ford, but isn't an
> animal and thus doesn't match the pattern.
> 
> -Emma
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