[NR] NORTHERN REGIONALNAMING a list for heralds and timeline

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Wed Jun 8 09:01:30 PDT 2011


It's so cool you used a word like 'toponomics!' I feel smarter just reading this conversation. 
Blessings,
Dwen 
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Subject: Re: [NR] NORTHERN REGIONALNAMING a list for heralds and timeline

Your Excellency,

I should mention that both Styringeard and Cyrmoden were Old English, just so we have clarity on the toponomics.

~Finnacan


---- Cameron Lewis <okrabbit at cox.net> wrote: 
> Here is the list that Tadhg suggested from his mathy-ness capabilities, that 
> I do not have, and the meanings and languages if there was information 
> given.  I would ask that any name-savvy heralds look it over and see if 
> there would be any conflicts or mis-whatevers with them so we could cull 
> this list down just a bit more before we do a formal polling on names.  We 
> would like a name that we can register as only a Kingdom can register a 
> region name so no one else takes it.
> 
> This is the 8th of June.
> 
> If we can get any research done by the 27th of June 2011 the list can get 
> re-compiled and an ad can be put into the August blackstar for a polling 
> (who's deadline is July 1st).
> 
> This also gives time for new submissions to happen this month if anyone 
> would like to do more research for names to add to the list.
> 
> I WILL BE CALLING FOR AN OFFICIAL POLLING TO BE DONE IN THE NORTHERN REGION 
> AT THE POPULACE OF EACH BARONY, PROVINCE, SHIRE, AND CANTON DURING THE MONTH 
> OF AUGUST 2011 AT THEIR LOCAL MEETING.
> 
> If anyone thinks that this timeline is bad, please let me know, I am always 
> willing to change with new evidence.
> 
> Cassius Lepus
> Baron of Wiesenfeuer
> 
> the list of names follows
> 
> 
> > Hrithmarc
> Means Tempest Land in Old English
> > Hastmark
> means horse lands in Swedish
> > Cyrmoden
> Cyrm, pronounced Kirm, meaning "A clamor, noise" and Oden, meaning "a court 
> or chamber, floor space, an indoor area." The Court of Noise -
> > Ebenen      german
> means plains, which describes most of Oklahoma and the Texas panhandle
> > Midgrens
> Dutch for Heartland
> > Quivara
> Historical (possibly from the Arabic for "Great") name for the region 
> including Eastern New Mexico through the Texas Panhandle, Oklahoma and 
> Kansas.
> > Styringeard
> Styring, from "styr (pronounced stir) ", meaning "to move", like stirring a 
> soup or a stirring song that rouses troops. It also is the root of "storm", 
> as clouds and weather were moving or stirring. the word "styraman" means "to 
> storm".Geard is also Gard, meaning a garden or yard, an enclosure of ground. 
> Styringeard (pronounced "Stirring Gard") would mean the Stirring Garden.
> > Norchester    middle english
> Northern Fortification
> > Biornrice     old english
> Translated from "warrior, hero" and "realm, people" to "realm of heroes" or 
> "people of heroes". Pronunciation is roughly "beeorn-rys".
> > Northunor or Norðþunor old english
> Translates to "thunder from the north". Pronunciation is roughly 
> "nordh-thunor".
> > Reodweald   don’t know the language means Red Land
> > Morland  or Mðrland old english
> Translates to "wild hilly country".
> > Axia
> It's the word "axis" modified with the -ia place name suffix to signify that 
> our region is Ansteorra's "north star" ( aligned to the polar axis, so to 
> speak).
> > Glomeval
> Conjecturally period, this is a variation on a Norse Runestone found in the 
> Northern Region, outside Heavener, and shows that a Norseman named "Glome" 
> laid claim to the valley, ie: "Glome's Vale", in period, and, in fact, 
> previous to the Spanish expeditions. A possible alternate translation calls 
> the same area "Gnomeval", or "Valley of the Gnomes". The runestone is part 
> of a chain that ran north and south, along the present day Oklahoma/ 
> Arkansas border, or, the current border of Ansteorra and Glen Abhean, and 
> would have referred to not just the immediate valley, but "all points west, 
> as far as Glome could hold".
> > Moralor  or Mðralor   old english
> Translates to "wild hilly country". Taken from "mðrland" (wild hilly 
> country) and "alor" (country) with "alor" taking the place of "land". It 
> should work so long as the scribes don't inadvertently get the "a" too close 
> to the "l" and turn it into a "d". 
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