[NR] Fw: naming- was incorectly titled "northkeeps problem" Re: [Northkeep] solutions to Northkeep problems

[Ld.blackmoon]

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From: "Ld.blackmoon" <ld.blackmoon at cox.net>
To: "The Barony of Northkeep" <northkeep at lists.ansteorra.org>
Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:27 PM
Subject: naming- was incorectly titled "northkeeps problem" Re: [Northkeep] 
solutions to Northkeep problems


> greetings
>
> I believe what tadhg was trying to say was that any name for the region, 
> should apply to all groups in the region.
> for instance if you named the region- moonstorm , how many people will 
> believe that ( whether or not it is true) that only namron and 
> mooneschadow mattered in the naming ? or green country- northkeep , or red 
> dirt - eldern / weisenfeuer . etc.
> we are not " just " any one land feature , any one weather feature , any 
> one historical period,or even any one solar feature .
> and naming the " northern region " after some things , will only make 
> others laugh , as they do when we say were "from the north ".
> Oklahoma, and upper Texas all have minor earthquakes , and the 
> temperatures often exceed 100 degrees ,
> does that mean we should name the region " shake and bake " ??( even if we 
> use a different language to pretty it up )
> I don't think so, but hey , im trying to think ahead , and I'm only one 
> voice , so not worth much , in the grander scheme .
>
> and really, if people choose some silly, ill fitting name , I can always 
> just ignore it ,and say " I'm an ansteorran from northkeep "  at least 
> till I'm too old to play any more .
>
> on the perception of the southern ignoring the northern on many things 
> including royal presence,etc. whether or not it may be true ,seems 
> irrelevant to me .
> we as a region , in describing " our " region" , should be looking to 
> ourselves and those in our region , it only becomes a kingdom issue if / 
> when a name / names are considered for sending to the heralds for final 
> choice. because no matter what we choose, the heralds will tell us what we 
> are allowed to use .
>
> and really , I know history has left bad feelings on both sides of the 
> issue, but aren't we all supposed to be honorable , chivalrous ,adults ? 
> can't we give the other side , the benefit of the doubt, and get past this 
> for the greater good ?
>
> right now , gas prices, economy, finances etc. are already putting a 
> strain on sca activities, so it is getting harder for people from any 
> region to travel to other regions , except for the central region, which 
> seems to be centrally located .... duhh ; )
> anyway, speaking of travel , bonwick is having a wonderful event in June, 
> people should try to save up and go : ) their really nice people, and fun 
> too :)
>
> again , just my opinion, your mileage may vary
> Be Safe , Be Happy, Have Fun .
> Arthur
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Cisco Cividanes" <engtrktwo at gmail.com>
> To: "ld_tadhg" <ld_tadhg at yahoo.com>; "The Barony of Northkeep" 
> <northkeep at lists.ansteorra.org>
> Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [Northkeep] solutions to Northkeep problems
>
>
>> Honestly, Tadhg, I think that part of the reason the concept of "north" 
>> is
>> rooted so heavily in some of us (not necessarily claiming myself in this,
>> but not discounting it either), is that there have been a number of
>> instances in our history where the perception (at least) has been an "us 
>> vs
>> them" framework. There are people, or at least there were
>> relatively recently, who think that part of the north's character was
>> achieved in spite of, or against the will of the rest of the kingdom. The
>> accuracy of that mindset is certainly debatable (to say the least), but I
>> would think that we can agree that the perception exists at some level.
>>
>> Ivo
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 11:16 AM, Tadhg <ld_tadhg at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Well put and agreed so long as you concede that you are referring to 
>>> North
>>> Carolinians as being northern among Carolinians.
>>>
>>> My preference is to find some symbol in common between all our peoples 
>>> in
>>> this region.
>>> Tadhg
>>> ...brick by brick
>>> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>>>
>>>
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