[Northkeep] Was Heraldic Question

maidenhair madnhair at rapfire.net
Tue Jun 12 18:26:02 PDT 2001


no it went down.
maidenhair
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tamberlin" <tamberlinofnk at yahoo.com>
To: <northkeep at ansteorra.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 4:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Northkeep] Was Heraldic Question


> Is it just me or did the head stick jock's iq just go
> up?!?!?!
>
> Tamberlin the wannabe stick jane
> whoseesmuchpaininherfuture
>
> --- Bethor2000 at aol.com wrote:
> > Earlier comments posted:
> >
> > >>well at least in christianized areas.
> > >>what about the creative anachronist part?
> > AND
> > >>Often time those hiding groups of non Christians
> > of Europe
> >
> > Unless your talking about Latvia and parts of
> > Lithuania then there was no
> > recorded "pagan" religion during the historical
> > period we are
> > "re-enacting"(to use that term in the loosest and
> > broadest sense).  Sorry but
> > this underground religion stuff is a modern, New Age
> > creation, just like
> > Wicca, it was created during the good old 20th
> > Century, most likely the 60's.
> >  Did people of Europe have superstitious practices,
> > yea verily.  These are
> > well recorded, and generally have some Christian
> > part of a "spell" that
> > involves saying the name of a saint or "numeric
> > magic" from a significant
> > occurrence in the Bible.  The use of astrology is
> > also very well documented.
> > For a look at late medieval practices I'd recommend
> > K Thomas RELIGION AND
> > THE DECLINE OF MAGIC.
> > From what I've read and studied about "pagan"
> > religions of Europe, most
> > people had no problem converting to Christianity,
> > because it was a definite
> > step up and away from those very brutal practices.
> > The idea of the peaceful,
> > matriarchic nature religions is a whimsy.  The
> > studies of the people that
> > practiced these religions, through contemporary
> > accounts and modern
> > archeology show that these groups practiced human
> > sacrifice and blood soaked
> > ceremonies(Norse, specifically, have accounts of
> > ceremonial rape and live
> > burials).  Even the Malleus Maleficarum advises that
> > witches are in an
> > individual relationship with devils, and not part of
> > some vast underground
> > group.
> >
> > Alton
> > "suffer not a witch to live"
>
> =====
> "Do not meddle in the affairs of Dragons...for you are crunchy and good
with ketchup."
>
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