[Northkeep] scholarly question

[Dennis England]

Thank you so much!

Balvin
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From: "Elyssa Hoffman" <smurf56 at provalue.net>
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> I have not researched this but this is my thoughts of the subject. As far
as
> I know it is the same now as it was back then. Abbot is from the Aramaic
> abba meaning father. Soooo, one would  address an abbot as father or
father
> superior in what ever language is appropriate. When I was a child I used
to
> attend mass at Mission San Luis Rey, we would address the abbot there as
> Father Ignacio or if we were speaking Spanish as Padre Ignacio. Find the
> word for father in Welsh or Icelandic .  I think the more interesting
> question would be what the Abbot would call the 10th century Icelander.
>
> There community and peers would address him in the same manner. The Pope
> would address him the same as a member of  his abbey would.
>
> By the way they still use the same coat of arm system today: green hat and
> six tassels on each side in rows of three, tassels are black for
Benedictine
> or white for Cistercian or Premonstatensian, gold cross flanked by miter
and
> crosier, the  crosier is curved outward for a bishop and inward with veil
> attached to knob for abbot. The arms of the diocese occupy the left side
of
> the shield and personal arms the right.
>
> Good question for the first day of Advent, it was in the tenth century
that
> the first Sunday of Advent became the begining of the Church year.
> Lady Elyssa de Orozco
>
>
>
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> From: Dennis England <sirbalvin at worldnet.att.net>
> To: northkeep <northkeep at ansteorra.org>
> Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 10:22 AM
> Subject: [Northkeep] scholarly question
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> Greetings All,
>
> I hope this holiday season finds you all well and warm.  I have a question
> that someone out there may be able to help with or point me in the right
> direction for an answer.
>
> What would be the correct address for a 10th century Welsh Abbot?  As a
10th
> century Icelander, I think some of my more coarse brethren may have
> addressed them something like this, "how does that ax feel?"  But that's
not
> what I am looking for.  What I am looking for is how someone in their
> community and/or a peer may have addressed them.  Can anyone out there
help?
>
> Sincere thanks,
> Sir Balvin
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