[Northkeep] Demos (and some rhetorical questions...)

[Carl Chipman]

Quote (HYPERLINK
"http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/26/501.html"http://www4.law.cornell.edu/
uscode/26/501.html):
 
“Corporations, and any community chest, fund, or foundation, organized and
operated exclusively for religious, charitable, scientific, testing for
public safety, literary, or educational purposes, or to foster national or
international amateur sports competition (but only if no part of its
activities involve the provision of athletic facilities or equipment), or
for the prevention of cruelty to children or animals, no part of the net
earnings of which inures to the benefit of any private shareholder or
individual, no substantial part of the activities of which is carrying on
propaganda, or otherwise attempting, to influence legislation (except as
otherwise provided in subsection (h)), and which does not participate in, or
intervene in (including the publishing or distributing of statements), any
political campaign on behalf of (or in opposition to) any candidate for
public office. “
There are no statements in there that say what kinds of education are
required.   Heck if we wanted too, we could seek shelter under the
“international amateur sports competition” clause (we’d be ignoring 9/10ths
of the rest of the SCA in that case though) since we don’t provide
facilities or equipment (ok, maybe not due to loaner armour).
Finally, the only members of the SCA are the ones who pay membership.  Since
we allow those who don’t to come to classes, events, etc, THEY could be
considered the public too.
Like I said, I think we should do demos, just don’t yell “WE HAVE TO!!!”.
Jean Paul
Carl Chipman
Nomadics, Inc.HYPERLINK "mailto:Inc.cchipman at nomadics.com"
cchipman at nomadics.com
HYPERLINK "http://www.nomadics.com/"http://www.nomadics.com
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From: northkeep-bounces at ansteorra.org
[mailto:northkeep-bounces at ansteorra.org] On Behalf Of Robert Stewart
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 1:02 PM
To: cchipman at nomadics.com; The Barony of Northkeep
Subject: RE: [Northkeep] Demos (and some rhetorical questions...)
 

When my wife was a IRS agent, she checked with the Phoenix area manager,
explaining what we do and such.  he stated that we are obligated to teach
the general public, not just members.  That is why I keep saying the Gov't
says differently and why I am not wrong.
Skerri


Carl Chipman <cchipman at nomadics.com> wrote: 
But you’re wrong.  Educating our groups (i.e. A&S night, events with
classes, reconstructing medieval fighting manuscripts) are sufficient
sources of educating the public. 
 
Now, for the continued health of the group, it is good to continue to
recruit.  For the “share the fun” it’s good to recruit. For many reasons,
it’s good to do demos and recruit.
 
But it is not required to maintain our non-profit status.  We are also the
public.  
 
Notice that the people who the Boy Scouts, Girl Scouts, etc, educate are the
members of the group.
 
I’m sorry that you guys were left holding the bag at a public demo, but
lambasting the group for failing to meet your perception of their “duty” is,
especially when you’re not fully correct, is not a positive action.
 
Jean Paul de Sens
 
 
Carl Chipman
Nomadics, Inc.HYPERLINK "mailto:Inc.cchipman at nomadics.com"
cchipman at nomadics.com
HYPERLINK "http://www.nomadics.com/"http://www.nomadics.com
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From: northkeep-bounces at ansteorra.org
[mailto:northkeep-bounces at ansteorra.org] On Behalf Of Robert Stewart
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 12:47 PM
To: The Barony of Northkeep
Subject: Re: [Northkeep] Demos (and some rhetorical questions...)
 

Sorry for the cutting on this.  Our non-profit tax status, in the view of
the FED., means we do have to do public education, as I said before.  I also
appreciate that some people don't like doing demos, and other folks can't.
There are other things to do aside from going to the demo to help with a
demo.  I understand what you mean about education, though.  What you find
educating I may find boring.
Skerri
 




 
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