[Northkeep] device conflict....

ravenrux at cox.net ravenrux at cox.net
Fri Oct 10 13:33:00 PDT 2003


Erased, for reasons I'm not quite sure of, means ripped off.  So a dragon's head erased has been ripped off of the body and has a rough line along the "rip"

Masamune

From: "Graue, Chris" <Chris.Graue at benham.com>
Date: 2003/10/10 Fri PM 03:49:08 EDT
To: "'The Barony of Northkeep'" <northkeep at ansteorra.org>
Subject: RE: RE: [Northkeep] device conflict....

Domo, Masamune-san. This makes much more sense to me now. When you said
"erased" earlier, does that mean the image is white on a colored background?

Chris *lightbulb flickering faintly over head*

-----Original Message-----
From: ravenrux at cox.net [mailto:ravenrux at cox.net]

A fret is a hollow diamond with a couple of small "straps" braided through
it.  

Per pale means divided from top to bottom by a straight line, so that the
left half is a different color from the right half.

Counterchanged means the "per pale" division splits the fret as well as the
field and the colors are reversed.  Over the blue (azure) half of the shield
the fret it yellow (Or), and over the yellow half (Or) the fret is blue
(azure).

Masamune 
From: "Graue, Chris" <Chris.Graue at benham.com>
Date: 2003/10/10 Fri PM 03:31:55 EDT
To: "'The Barony of Northkeep'" <northkeep at ansteorra.org>
Subject: RE: [Northkeep] device conflict....

OK, what's a fret, what is counterchanged and does "per pale" not mean what
I think it does? What am I saying, it still doesn't make sense even if it
DOES mean what I think it does!!! The only part of this I understand (now)
is the colors... Can someone give me an SCA to english translation here so I
can try to understand?

Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: Miriam Cook [mailto:zahavabathannah at yahoo.com]

OOPS!!  There is a conflict...
Registered in June of 1989 (via Caid):
Per pale gules and Or, a fret counterchanged.


--- "Horn, Trisha D." <tdhorn at saintfrancis.com> wrote:
> "Per pale azure and Or, a fret counterchanged" would
> be first choice. If it
> needs to be simplified, "Azure, a fret Or" is also a
> possibility.
> Raghnailt
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:	Miriam Cook [SMTP:zahavabathannah at yahoo.com]
> > Question-- you said counterchanged-- did you want "Per
> > pale azure and Or, a fret counterchanged" or "Azure, a
> > fret Or"
> > 
> > Zahava
> > 
> 

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