In a message dated 8/27/2009 9:22:15 PM Central Daylight Time, kiamichikate at gmail.com writes: Oops! Signs of dyslexia or aging, just flip flopping letters! Is is Gary Gloden. He really is very good. We have a tripod he made and it is beautiful. He used to be my farrier way back in the day. I wish I had time to take that class. Sigen