[Northkeep] Bummed Out Belt
ld.blackmoon
ld.blackmoon at cox.net
Wed Dec 16 21:25:47 PST 2009
greetings
i am just getting back into leather work as projects have required , but in
the past , " super sheen " has worked well over what used to be called
covadye paints , i had heard that they had changed something along with the
name change. so i don't know if it will still work or not.
also, yes it will crack, but that never used to be a real problem unless the
paint was caked on to the leather, ( no yours did not look caked on )
as i suggested tonight, you might try borrowing a blow dryer , or a heat gun
, or even setting it near a dry heat source for a while and testing it from
time to time.
ive never used the tan cote, but the reaction it appears to be having with
the paint , makes me think it may take extra long to cure, or set.
Be Safe , Be Happy, Have Fun
Arthur
----- Original Message -----
From: <ravenrux at cox.net>
To: "The Barony of Northkeep" <northkeep at lists.ansteorra.org>
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 3:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Northkeep] Bummed Out Belt
> We've all seen colored leather, but I think the majority of that is
> analine dye.
>
> Cova colors are waterbased, and I've never seen any clear coat that I'd
> trust on it.
>
> You may be able to do it with a water-based clear coat by spraying it on
> in very thin layers (just a sprinkling in the first few coats and let it
> completely dry between coats). This works with lacquers and oil based
> paints, but I've never done it with Cova colors. You'd have a clear coat
> in a spay can, and you'd have to build it up thick enough to resist wear,
> but it might work.
>
> Normally, I'd include a caveat about trying it out on a scrap piece first,
> but I don't see how it would matter in this case.
>
> I'm sorry to hear that you lost so much of your artwork and effort. I
> hope this helps--it's the only thing I can think of to do.
>
> Masamune
>
>
>
> ---- Cheryl Kiel <azuredecodragon at yahoo.com> wrote:
> You've got every right to be pissed on this. I'd be screaming my head
> off. I'm afraid leather isn't something I've worked with but I have
> messed with acrylic's. It's a water based paint & if it's running then
> it's washable. The gummy mess is going to be a pain but it should come
> off. Be patient & gentle. See what you can get off with just water &
> gentle wiping. One of the leather workers on here has to know some kind
> of leather soap or some such that you can try as well. I've tried to use
> acrylic's on a couple leather pieces & it's always cracked on me.
> Patience dear, there's gotta be a way to do this, we've all seen colored
> leather.
>
> Tamberlin
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Catherine Lackey <catanlac at yahoo.com>
> To: The Barony of Northkeep <northkeep at lists.ansteorra.org>
> Cc: gdh at ki.org
> Sent: Wed, December 16, 2009 12:59:27 PM
> Subject: [Northkeep] Bummed Out Belt
>
> Well, folks, I'm pretty bummed out here and I hope someone out there
> can advise me. I embarked a couple of months ago on a project--hand
> painting a wide leather belt in Celtic knotwork and zoomorphic figures. I
> went to Tandy Leather and talked to one of their personnel who directed me
> to the acrylic paints and something called Tan-Kote Protective Finish. I
> explained to the guy what I wanted to do and bought what he told me to
> buy. The only thing he told me to do was to dilute the paint when I used
> it, but didn't say why.
> Well, I planned my design and started to work. Diluting the paint made
> it too difficult to get bold color and using full strength gave me what I
> wanted. Even so, it took several coats on the inner design to get the
> coverage and strong line I needed for the design to show properly.
> Finally, this Monday I finished it and if I do say so myself, it turned
> out great. The colors were great, the design showed beautifully...then I
> put the sealant on.
> To my horror, it made the colors of the paint run, especially the blue.
> It bled on the yellow badly and suddenly it looked like hell. I had to
> repaint another coat on the yellow to clean it up. Then, today, having
> had 2 days to dry, I checked it out and wiped away dust with a damp cloth.
> To my further horror, the colors still ran (which they hadn't done before
> I put on the Tan-Kote) and became sticky.
> I called Tandy and the woman told me that I shouldn't have used the
> paint full strength and it would certainly crack when bent. She said
> diluting it makes it sink into the leather and apparently bond somehow,
> which I was never told. I said I told the guy what I wanted to do and
> this was not explained to me and how do I get bold colors watering down
> the paint. She said "Use a brighter color." Really? What's brighter
> than red and blue? She also told me the Tan-Kote was for unpainted areas
> and the acrylics are self-sealing. Really? I wasn't told that at the
> time, and there *are* no unpainted areas?
> She was pretty much useless, and I pretty much feel ripped off, as well
> as heartsick that 2 months of work apparently have gone for naught but
> ruination. I don't dare wear the thing as it is, for it surely will stain
> the garb I wear it with because of the Tan-Kote ruining the seal of the
> Cova acrylics.
> Does anyone have any knowledge of how I can seal the thing so at least
> as not to ruin the garb I planned to wear it with, at least until it
> cracks and goes to hell? I feel kind of sick about this since it seemed
> to turn out so well and I bought leather to make more belts which I now
> don't dare to do.
> I know in the greater scheme of things this is not a big deal, but it
> feels like a bummer to me. I'm really ticked at Tandy and inclined never
> to give them my business in the future. I hope someone can tell me how to
> seal this thing so at least it doesn't damage my garb at least. Thanks
> for the space to vent.
>
>
> Catrin, cranky
>
>
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